Sub-Zones and Points of Interests

[Jaixe Furiael]

So I was looking through the verse’s information topics and I’m finding more and more that there isn’t so much go on in a lot of verses. Furthermore, we’re not even drawing from some popular IP’s as we could be, such as Pixars films, other Final Fantasies aside from VII (FFVI is pretty good too, you know), Starcraft, Tron, Megaman, Star Trek, LoZ, and various animes I could probably list... Not to mention that we can certainly add our own ideas into the mix from time to time.

I mean, yeah, this place is not designed to wholly encompass every other universe, fandom, and original idea out there, and I get that. I also understand that too much variety can be a bad thing, it spreads people out too much, and we probably don’t have enough players to rationalize adding more verses or otherwise massive locations. I’m not suggesting adding new verses though, I’m more thinking of adding sub-zones, and points of interests within those new sub-zones as well as already existing ones. This would be to incentivize more exploration and lingering within a verse rather than skipping from one to the next like a sped-up game of Kingdom Hearts. It may also incentivize actually going to a sub-zone that isn’t frequented as much due to there now being something noteworthy.

You could add places like a look-alike Grid from Tron to give us another smaller faction with some quests and a good, exploration-heavy location for the physical Dataverse to make it more than just a fancy teleporter with some Digimon on an island for funsies.

Or how about a group of Protoss making a small temple or homestead somewhere in Camelot or Coruscant? It’d be sorta like the Jedi Temple, only cooler. XD Surely that has its own amount of potential as well.

Or how about a Garden from FFVIII somewhere fitting?

Ultimately, what would be neat is more potential to explore, expand, and, when you’re just starting out, have issues choosing where to go because everywhere sounds exciting and interesting. That's probably too idealistic, but it's still a worthwhile goal I think. When I look at the verse topics, I don’t really get too much of that currently except in a few verses where there’s quite a bit of development because players go there with some level of frequency. Even then, though, some sub-zones in those verses get little to no attention when contrasted to the others.

What do you guys think? I’m curious to see some other arguments or suggestions on this topic.

I suppose a good counter-argument would be that it's up to the player to develop their own locations when the current ones aren't fitting for what they need. However, shouldn't there be limits to that?

[Ururu Kyuuei]

How about San Frantokyo, home of Riley Anderson and the Big Hero 6?

There's your pixar!

[Chloe Price]

How about having an area based off of DC Comics? They don't appear to have any actual areas for DC Comics characters, and Barry has nowhere to go that's actually thematically fitting.

[Jaixe Furiael]

Well, your idea could be done by creating a sub-zone based around the classic heroes vs villains, which could include Ururu's idea as well as other notable locations in DC or Marvel and the likes.

The thing with the Omniverse, that I've noticed, is that things are usually (not always) integrated into this hodgepodge of a history and lore rather than just slapped on with the statement of, "there's your fan service."

[Proto Man]

I prefer the spattering of places pulled in from various canons, but I'd also rather see more original locations or places built up by characters over time. Even the places we have that are taken from various settings (Minas Tirith, Coruscant, Silent Hill) are heavily altered so they feel unique to the Omniverse in many ways. I prefer that over some sort of Kingdom Hearts-themed thing, where there's a place for every single thing.

I might also be jaded from the websites that predated the Omniverse, which attempted to satisfy entirely too many settings and wound up feeling jumbled and messy. As someone who has helped to develop the story aspect of this website, I am focused more on creating a rich, unique setting.

[Yu Kanda]

The idea of having a subzone or 2 extra within the verses isny a bad idea, i do however would like to point out that letting members create said sub verse would be very unwise. Howmany primes have come and gone after just a few weeks. This way they will create subverses that will never be used.

Another point, because there are so many different canons we draw our characters from its impossible to give each and every one of them a sub verse that "fit their character" there are many places already, just find out how your character would react there. Just because superman is from krypton doesnt mean he cannot adjust to life on earth make it work.

And lastly...if you are a comitted roleplayer and you save up plenty of OM and fame on the site you could set up something special. Just look at Ambrosia... everything created by Guu with time and effort . Because of the time and effort something like this is possible, and not just create something on a whim.

(( damnit proto beat me to it ))

[Ururu Kyuuei]

I prefer the spattering of places pulled in from various canons, but I'd also rather see more original locations or places built up by characters over time. Even the places we have that are taken from various settings (Minas Tirith, Coruscant, Silent Hill) are heavily altered so they feel unique to the Omniverse in many ways. I prefer that over some sort of Kingdom Hearts-themed thing, where there's a place for every single thing.

I might also be jaded from the websites that predated the Omniverse, which attempted to satisfy entirely too many settings and wound up feeling jumbled and messy. As someone who has helped to develop the story aspect of this website, I am focused more on creating a rich, unique setting.

San Frantokyo fits the Omniverse quite well being two cities mashed together.

[Tearen Wover]

I think user elected subzones should be something considered carefully. The entire point of the Omniverse is to put your characters in situations they normally wouldn't find themselves in.

That's not to say that players need to clear it with an Angel every time they want to mention the presence of a new IP in passing, but having a great abundance of established settings scattered around like pepperoni on a pizza actually LIMITS possibilities, IMO. If you have a Kingdom Hearts character and you just want to go to Kingdom Hearts...Land, you're on the wrong site.

[Jaixe Furiael]

If you have a Kingdom Hearts character and you just want to go to Kingdom Hearts...Land, you're on the wrong site.

I mean, yeah, this place is not designed to wholly encompass every other universe, fandom, and original idea out there, and I get that. I also understand that too much variety can be a bad thing...

No, pretty sure I'm on the right site, sir.

I think user elected subzones should be something considered carefully. The entire point of the Omniverse is to put your characters in situations they normally wouldn't find themselves in.

Yes, user-submitted sub-zones should be considered carefully. Yes, the entire point of the Omniverse is to put our characters into situations that they wouldn't normally find themselves in, and then make something unique from it. What I'm suggesting are more options, because last I checked, not all of us were from FFVIII, or Tron, and the likes. I want more places to go to, to explore more with my character, and have incentives to do so. That's the entire point of this suggestion, that we should consider adding some more to flesh verses out with.

At the same time, though, I agree that adding too much would limit certain player's options, and we're not here to pander to every canon verse out there. Just the ones Omni likes the most.

The idea of having a subzone or 2 extra within the verses isny a bad idea, i do however would like to point out that letting members create said sub verse would be very unwise. Howmany primes have come and gone after just a few weeks. This way they will create subverses that will never be used.

Yeah, and that's why it's usually an investment for players to create those places, like Ambrosia, which Proto pointed out. Maybe some more clarification on that might be helpful, cause that seems to go a bit beyond bases imo, but I could be wrong. Not very knowledgeable on that part of the rule book to be honest. Largely in part due to the fact that I'm not sure I even want a base for myself...

Which brings me to my next point, not everyone will be willing to put forth that much investment, as much as the ideas might be cool. I mean, a protoss appearing and making that temple I suggested, or Ruby and Weiss building a new Beacon Academy would be neat, but maybe the characters themselves decide not to for whatever reason. What then?

There should be some more options for them to explore outside of their IP all the same, I feel, as to keep up variety for those that decide, "Maybe I don't want to make my own settlement or base." I think we can add some more variety in the form of smaller additions, rather than big cities. Except for something like the Grid as frankly the Dataverse is lacking in options at all.

I might also be jaded from the websites that predated the Omniverse, which attempted to satisfy entirely too many settings and wound up feeling jumbled and messy. As someone who has helped to develop the story aspect of this website, I am focused more on creating a rich, unique setting.

No, that seems pretty sane and normal of an opinion to me. This isn't Kingdom Hearts, after all, it's its own place with a unique history that is a hodgepodge of player interactions and the lores of other canon verses. If we add more places, it should be done in a way that it integrates well into the existing lore, rather than feels haphazardly tossed in for the sake of fan service. It should contribute, not detract and confuse. I think that's part of the whole, "new sub-zones should be considered carefully" dealio.

All in all, it's up to debate and perspective. I like these opinions and ideas, keep em coming.

[Bandit With No Name]

I also think that we almost have too many Verses already, but most of them are starting to get more use now, so that's good.

If PCs make more areas themed for those areas, that's awesome. There's nothing stopping people from finding places or founding places that fit into their interests. I'm founding the Corps system in the Omniverse, or at least that's an eventual goal.

Having even more areas and sub-areas when the ones we already have are under utilized just seems like it wouldn't ADD much, you know? Still an interesting idea though, to be sure.