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[Makoto Yuki]

Is OM quantifiable IC? Like, If I go into a store run by a secondary, do they tell me X item is worth Y amount in OM?

[Reece]

Is OM quantifiable IC? Like, If I go into a store run by a secondary, do they tell me X item is worth Y amount in OM?

To add to this question; I've seen a couple people liken Omnillium to money, but the rules state that:

When held by a Prime, it absorbs into their being and becomes a kind of essence that cannot be given or stolen, only used.

So if it can't be given, then wouldn't that mean that it was impossible for primes to ever buy anything?
... Or pay bounties, for that matter?

[Makoto Yuki]

Nah, pretty sure that rule only governs interactions between primes, where you can't give to or steal OM from a prime, for gameplay purposes. It's cool with secondaries though.

Sorry I couldn't reference the exact part of the rules that says so. :/

Maybe it was in the Faq? I dunno.

[Mickey Mouse]

The key clause there is "when held by." This means when it is being held inside your body. You can summon raw OM.

As far as shops go, they exist, but Primes rarely need to buy things since they can summon what they want? However, I suppose secondaries would accept OM as payment in some circumstances, even though they can't do anything with it?

[Sarah_Kerrigan]

Maybe I can clarify things a bit since there seems to be some confusion here:

As described in the 'About the World' rules page, Secondaries do in fact use Omnilium as a source to determine status (currency). Although they can't use it themselves they gather and harvest it, and then in turn employ Primes that can turn it into anything worth imagining. In very simple terms it IS the Economy; as anything can be created from it with the right 'tool' (prime). This makes it (omnilium) quite literally the only thing with any real trade value between Secondaries. While I'm not sure on the actual amounts for specific goods that may be sold in the respective verses, it would certainly be used (at least when it is in its physical obtainable form) by Secondaries as a type exchange currency between themselves, and as a form of payment to hire local Primes.

[Reece]

Nah, pretty sure that rule only governs interactions between primes, where you can't give to or steal OM from a prime, for gameplay purposes. It's cool with secondaries though.

I was actually meaning the bounties posted by players. I don't think there actually are any right now, but Omni did say:

If someone has pissed you off, you can put a bounty out for their head (separate prices for Death or Banishment if you like) on the Dataverse. Just make sure you pay up, or most likely you'll be on the board next ...

Still, Mickey & Sarah's answers cleared that up. So thanks.

[Omni]

To further to omnilium discuss, I tend to fluff the amounts. Samus pays for things with a 'drop' or 'trickle' of omnilium commonly. Here's an example: <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="http://omniverse-rpg.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=545">viewtopic.php?f=16&t=545</a><!-- l -->

[Proto Man]

My opinion might make this a 'too many chefs in the kitchen' scenario, but Proto Man and Shang Tsung tend to buy things with actual currency, the latter using gold coins since he's in a late-medieval setting. I mean, everything in the Omniverse, whether it's your sword or a stack of gold ingots, is made of OM anyway and can be converted back into raw rainbow goo if a prime wills it.

[Black Mage]

I'm getting closer and closer to that 8K needed to get an alt, and I've been thinking about a business type character, so I wanted to ask a few questions beforehand.

#1: If I wanted my character to have two separate communicators, one for business and one for personal affairs, would that be possible? Would it require another communicator purchase or could I fluff that my character made it to where it had two "phone numbers", one that forwarded to a business and one that one direct?

#2: Omlinium is obviously the most valuable resource in the Omniverse, but individual verses would have their own form of currency correct? Say an Imperial Credit for Coruscant? If Imperial Credits are a thing could a character use them to employ secondaries to do menial jobs, so long as they don't empower their owner omlinium wise, just helping the Entrepreneur/Prime get more Imperial Credits?

#3: In the Coruscant information it has a line that says

For those with Omnilium in excess, you can buy a house or headquarters here – all construction is done by government-approved bodies, to be in keeping with the city’s image.

. Would this mean that I would need extra Omlinium to create a base here? Would being an official member of the Empire/Empire Government be required? If so, would either of the two Coruscant Quests help in getting permission/access to higher tier headquarter approval?

[Dark Link]

#1: If I wanted my character to have two separate communicators, one for business and one for personal affairs, would that be possible? Would it require another communicator purchase or could I fluff that my character made it to where it had two "phone numbers", one that forwarded to a business and one that one direct?

You can just fluff that, since how the device looks like and operates is up to your discretion.

#2: Omlinium is obviously the most valuable resource in the Omniverse, but individual verses would have their own form of currency correct? Say an Imperial Credit for Coruscant? If Imperial Credits are a thing could a character use them to employ secondaries to do menial jobs, so long as they don't empower their owner omlinium wise, just helping the Entrepreneur/Prime get more Imperial Credits?

No. All verses use omnilium as a currency. Instead of saying that omnilium is the 'most valuable resource', it would be more accurate to say that it's the only resource with any real value, since anything else would be far too easy to replicate. That said, however, how much a certain amount of omnilium is worth in a certain place might differ; after all, the local authorities are likely to regulate prices depending on the amount of omnilium in circulation in their local economy.

#3: In the Coruscant information it has a line that says

For those with Omnilium in excess, you can buy a house or headquarters here – all construction is done by government-approved bodies, to be in keeping with the city’s image.

. Would this mean that I would need extra Omlinium to create a base here? Would being an official member of the Empire/Empire Government be required? If so, would either of the two Coruscant Quests help in getting permission/access to higher tier headquarter approval?

That part really just means that, IC-wise, you're not allowed to plop down buildings on your own accord so as to not mess with the city's urban plan. But no, you don't have to pay extra and you don't need to be a member/subject of the Empire in order to have your headquarters in Coruscant.

By extension, that also means you don't have to do the Empire quests in order to gain permission to have your headquarters located in the higher tiers. That said, if you do sign up with the Empire, you could use that as IC justification for being able to set up shop in the higher tiers or even getting a house/apartment in the first place. That's how Sarah and I handled it: in exchange for signing up with the EPD, our characters were assigned one of the military-owned apartments.

I will also add this. While it costs OM to move your HQ from one verse to another, there is technically nothing preventing you from relocating your base within the same verse if you desire. So if you wanted to, you could roleplay starting off as a small business in the lower Tiers, only to gradually move up as your business grows until you have a needlessly shiny Tier 1 skyscraper of your very own.

[Thaal Sinestro]

The fact is that ANY form of currency is only worth the Omnilium you put into it, so all that precious/not precious stuff doesn't matter. The only currency in the world is omnilium, and the different verses accept different forms of easily carried omnilium. There are no rules as to how much omnilium takes up how much space, so a currency with a 100 on it could very well be worth more than a currency with 10 on it.

Primes will eventually be the ones to convert the currency back into OM, but having a standardized or at least SEMI standardized system for currency would allow merchants to base their currency off of SOMETHING. Like, what the fuck did peasants do with gold? They gave it to people who did stuff with it in exchange for other goods. That's how money works.

Additionally, because OM only TRULY exists within the control of Primes, it has to be formed into SOMETHING in order to be GIVEN to a Secondary. If you make the physical form of OM a shimmering sphere of whateverthefuck, COOL, but that's not an inherently more "pure" form of OM, and it seems a hell of a lot harder to carry and count.

Also, a lot of motherfuckers are stupid. A shiny gold coin is probably a lot more alluring to a medieval peasant than some weird glowing glob of who the hell knows what.

[Lord Dominator]

Apologies if this is answered somewhere else - a quick search couldn't find the answer.

What money is used in the Omniverse? I assumed that the Empire probably uses Credits and the Kingdom probably uses Gold, is that a fair assumption? Am I basically free to make up what is a lot and a little money within context?

I know Primes probably don't care about money at all because Omnilium is a lot more useful but I imagine Secondaries probably still need it for all those lovely things money can buy (for everything else, there's Omnicard).

[Amaterasu]

Apologies if this is answered somewhere else - a quick search couldn't find the answer.

What money is used in the Omniverse? I assumed that the Empire probably uses Credits and the Kingdom probably uses Gold, is that a fair assumption? Am I basically free to make up what is a lot and a little money within context?

I know Primes probably don't care about money at all because Omnilium is a lot more useful but I imagine Secondaries probably still need it for all those lovely things money can buy (for everything else, there's Omnicard).

You are correct - there's a variety of currencies used across the Omniverse but, to my best knowledge, no mention of specifics for any verse. You are thus mostly free to make up your own currencies and prices (so long of course as it's RP fluff and not a way to buy powers etc. for cheaper than in the Rules).

[Schwi Dola]

Omnilium is consistently a currency.

[Guilmon]

I always imagined the currency for each verse as modified Omnilium. Like, 10 gold/credits would equal 10 OM. I assumed it would always be an equal transfer.

[Amaterasu]

I always imagined the currency for each verse as modified Omnilium. Like, 10 gold/credits would equal 10 OM. I assumed it would always be an equal transfer.

Well, nobody's telling you what to think (except the thought police :awesome: ) but keep in mind that, unless you're buying things like a Communicator or a weapon any currency you spend is on the "hand waved" side of things.
The OM which we have with numbers, "10 OM" and such, is implemented so that we have something to work with, but in the IC world there is no such thing as "one unit of Omnilium", as Omnilium is essentially atoms.

[Alex]

Everything boils down to OM. What form that OM takes (gold, credits, denari, w/e) varies by locale. At the end, it's all OM.