Secondary Currency

[Thaal Sinestro]

Alright, I get that Primes can store and use omnilium, but what kind of currency do the secondaries use? They can't make it into anytihng and they can't store it in themselves, but that doesn't mean they can't "sell" it to people who can I guess. Do Secondaries use OM as currency, do they barter, is it zone specific (buffallo dollars in The town With No Name and credits in Coruscant) or what's the deal there?

Thanks!

[Ganondorf]

It's stated that Primes actually use Secondaries to gather OM, so I assume they use it as currency as well.

[Thaal Sinestro]

It's stated that Primes actually use Secondaries to gather OM, so I assume they use it as currency as well.

Yeah, it's kind of implied that they use it also, but maybe Primes are paying Secondaries in... something else? Maybe material goods the secondaries can actually use, you know? Why should a secondary be worried about carrying around OM if he can't do anything with it? Then again, we can't DO anything with our paper bills. I'm just curious if this is something that's been hammered out.

I actually intend on Sinestro posing as a secondary for the time being because he staunchly refuses to use his OM, so I figured it was a pertinent question.

[Nanoha Takamachi]

"All Omnilium owned by Primes is part of their being, and cannot be given or stolen - only used. Secondaries, on the other hand, cannot store Omnilium within themselves, and must transport it physically. Secondaries also cannot use Omnilium to summon, but they can 'extract' it (see below), separate it, and combine it (which is simply a physical process of pulling it apart and pushing it together). It is the main source of currency in the Omniverse."

So yeah I guess Omnilium is used be secondaries, but I assume it is probably converted into a physical form of currency for them to use (consider it like gold, then turned into coins). I've sort of pictured a credits system in Coruscant where people use a digital form of currency that is a representation of the omnilium stored away somewhere in banks or whatever. Perhaps Camelot would use actual gold coins or something.

Greg might have an actual 'canon' representation in mind, but he might've also left that detail vague on purpose for us to develop ourselves.

[Omni]

Um, yeah, it's all there in what Nanoha quoted. Omnilium has a physical form. Think of it like Zelda's triforce. It can exist, out in the world, or as a glow on the back of your hand. It's what EVERYONE uses as a main form of currency. Like anywhere else, you can try bartering with other stuff, but most people are gonna be like "You're weird. Stop being weird and trying to pay me with parsnips."

[Thaal Sinestro]

Alright, cool beans man. I figured that would be the answer, I jsut wanted to ensure there wasn't something I was missing! Thank youuuu

[Thaal Sinestro]

Oh, I was planning out my post, and if a secondary can extract OM, then barter would be fine because they could just take whatever item you had, extract the OM and use that direct value to determine what it's worth.

However, if Primes are the only ones that can like, MAKE shit, how is the economy based? Are there Primes out there making sheep to make wool, or, seemingly more insane, are there Primes out there who just summon huge skeins of wool so that secondaries can make it into clothes? Do the 'verses have like, native sheep that had to be captured and cultivated?

[Nanoha Takamachi]

"Secondaries also cannot use Omnilium to summon, but they can 'extract' it (see below), separate it, and combine it (which is simply a physical process of pulling it apart and pushing it together). It is the main source of currency in the Omniverse."

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I assume combining is how they make stuff. They just need certain things to make stuff, I figure, whereas Primes are limited only by their imagination and willpower.

[Thaal Sinestro]

"Secondaries also cannot use Omnilium to summon, but they can 'extract' it (see below), separate it, and combine it (which is simply a physical process of pulling it apart and pushing it together). It is the main source of currency in the Omniverse."

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I assume combining is how they make stuff. They just need certain things to make stuff, I figure, whereas Primes are limited only by their imagination and willpower.

Ya don't have to quote that every time, lol, I DID read it all before even starting the thread xD

I read "combine" to mean like, taking lots of little chunks of OM and pushing it together into bigger chunks.

[Nanoha Takamachi]

Just quoting it to source what I'm talking about I guess?

I interpret it that, since there is a distinction to separate it from summoning, combining is just the way that secondaries can use Omnilium to make things. There's some other stuff in there about Omnilium being obtainable from just about any sort of raw material, so I figure that you take different raw materials, render them to OM form, and then combine different rendered bits of OM into what you're trying to make.

EDIT: I think it's safe to say that since there are no hard and fast specifics about it, we can wrangle it as we see fit. If Omni feels official clarification is in order, I'm sure he'll update the information

[Omni]

By combining I literally just mean taking two blobs of omnilium and shoving them together. Without separating and combining, using it as currency would be problematic ...

[Thaal Sinestro]

However, if Primes are the only ones that can like, MAKE shit, how is the economy based? Are there Primes out there making sheep to make wool, or, seemingly more insane, are there Primes out there who just summon huge skeins of wool so that secondaries can make it into clothes? Do the 'verses have like, native sheep that had to be captured and cultivated?

[Omni]

Yeah there are Primes who help summon basic materials. But as mentioned in AtW, it's more efficient omnilium-wise to do it the old-fashioned way. So there's probably communities out there in Camelot with sheep (summoned with omnilium, or caught from the wild) who shear them for wool. People who actually mine stuff from the environment, etc. There WAS stuff before people arrived.

"Many use a combination of both methods, using easily-obtainable natural materials where possible, and getting Primes to summon more difficult to obtain materials and components."

[Thaal Sinestro]

Awesome possum! Thanks for all the help.