08-12-2017, 02:37 PM
(Note: You should probably rename the thread. Also, I know little about Touhou and DB/DBZ/DBS/whatever so sorry - I just used stuff on your rosters where needed)
Alright, let's do this. As far as I'm aware, no one went over the word count or missed a deadline, so no penalties and stuff. Before I get to grading: good job guys. It's pretty clear that none of you were typing just to fill the word count, and you all put effort into your posts. Maybe an extra proofread here or there could have helped, but in general, good job. If my comments feel empty for you, or I didn't explicitly add an advice thing at the bottom, it probably means I was running out of stuff to say. PM me and I'll happily clarify anything.
Scoring categories (you'll get a score out of 5 for each, and don't get hung up on comparing yourself to everyone else, especially people I graded outside of this fight):
Story: I'm aware this is a random fight in the Nexus with no plot, so this is more about your ability to follow off from the previous post while showing a clear fight progression.
Character: Based around how you portrayed your character (and others). Did they have a reason to fight? Did you describe or show their thoughts and struggles? Etc. Easily likeable or hateable characters score well here, but someone with no personality (unless they're meant to have no personality and you pull it off) or someone the reader is unlikely to feel apathetic towards is unlikely to score well. (note: by unlikable I mean a well written evil villain that can still be appreciated as a character, not someone like Professor Umbridge)
Voice: Your writing style. Was it clear? Did you make it interesting or compelling to read?
Realism: Self-explanatory. Could the characters feasibly act as you described, and would they? (No one's going to stand there and just let you charge an attack)
Technical: Grammar and spelling and word use and stuff.
Syn:
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Story:
+ I didn't spot any inconsistencies between your posts and the ones prior. It's possible I missed something, but I reckon if I did it must have been pretty minor.
+ Your posts described a fluid fight with combat being more chaotic/strategical and less of an "X hits Y, Y hits X".
- There was little actual progression. While you stated that people had taken damage, you very rarely showed or described its effects. Essentially, ignoring some of the dialogue and context, the core content of your posts could easily have been swapped with each other.
- An extension on what I noted above, Syn didn't really alter his strategy much as the fight progressed. It was a relatively simple "all out" style. More on this in the character section.
3/5
Character:
+ You made him deal with being a Nexus freshie, somewhat. Although that quickly wore off. I reckon some words may still have been better used to recount on how sudden it all was. Or show it.
+ He had to deal with his weakened strength.
- As noted under story, Syn didn't really plan. He could have created a temporary truce with Yuuka or simply directed the fairies towards her more. Especially considering this note in your roster:
Advice: You don't have to make Syn a likeable character. He's never going to really be relatable, and people aren't usually going to root for the guy who randomly goes around fighting people unless you're in DA. So, why not focus on actually writing him as evil? Cunning, manipulative, yet still struggling to achieve his evil goal. You could get a debuff move or attack to properly to the shock "I am evil" effect. Just don't spam it.
2/5
Voice:
+ Usually clear, good, and varied sentence structures. Clarity was rarely a problem for the main body of your writing.
- You tend to use more words than you need to. Often repeating things unnecessarily, or adding information twice. Example:
- You explain things in game terms fairly often. I don't think you even really described the appearance of your moves that often. Personally, I dislike this. You also don't need to be specific with measurements in your IC writing. Example:
Advice: Plan your post and try to form more compact statements. Generally describe everything more. Avoid too much repetition of words or general information.
1.5/5
Realism:
There are a few more similar things like that I would comment on, but generally, you had mostly realistic damage and fatigue and the way you described things generally fit people's stats. Although, one other thing to note:
You breath move only has a width of 2 inches yet Cirno's moves do spray, so wouldn't really be easily targetable with it unless you had a super high TEC (so could blow each individual shard).
So, in general, you need to work on your fight awareness.
2/5
Technical:
Syn quickly said: "Oh just shut up and let us fight!"
OR
Syn quickly said, "Oh just shut up and let us fight!"
I would be more forgiving if it was just typos, but some of these mistakes were fairly basic. Maybe give it an extra proofread or two before posting?
1.5/5
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Yuuka:
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Story:
+ Merged with everyone else's posts fairly well.
+ Fluid combat
+ Good progression
+ Some strategy, example:
Essentially, the main thing that's really missing is fitting this into the bigger picture. As part of your super big story for your character. Although I guess that wasn't an option here. That said, the only other thing I can really say is to vary up the attacks a bit more and how you attack. Like damaging someone's legs rather than just shooting them.
4/5
Character:
+ Banter was good.
+ She changed throughout the fight (more anger and annoyance and stuff later on).
+ You generally covered how she was feeling and what she was thinking consistently, implicitly or explicitly.
- I think you could have done more. Quite a lot of raw fight content happens in your posts, and you generally focus on Yuuka more subtly. Which is fine, but it prevents someone who doesn't know much about her from actually connecting with her in any way.
4/5
Voice:
+ I like your writing style, and you generally use good and varied sentence structure.
- Finer details were lacking in some areas. I don't think you really described the setting outside of crashing into the floor, and although this is the Nexus so it's not that important, finer details of your actual attacks and their impacts would be good. Rather than having someone be hit by petal bullets, describe how they were hit by petal bullets. You can decrease the actual number of attacks in your post and just focus on making those you write look really snazzy.
Another note:
4/5
Realism:
+ Generally had people acting as their stats suggested, which was good.
5/5
Technical:
Essentially, you can put a comma before 'and', 'but', etc. when you're joining two clauses that make sense on their own.
BUT, if one doesn't make sense on its own, and you connect it with 'and', 'but', etc. then don't use a comma.
However, if there are three or more clauses there you do have to use commas.
I'm 90% sure that's correct but if I'm wrong here please tell me.
4.5/5
Super general tip: try writing other people's characters more. Especially the dialogue. You're limiting yourself by foddering it in. While it could go wrong, you'll get good at it eventually if you're not already.
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Clownpiece:
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Story:
+ I didn't spot any inconsistencies.
+ It was fluid, good job varying it up with yours and everyone else's attacks.
+ The fight felt like it was progressing.
- Perhaps make damage take more or a role in restricting what people can do. Like damaging limbs or making it hard to aim due to injuries. Obviously, don't go overboard unless you've actually got a debuff for it.
4/5
Character:
+ Good dialogue. That really added to it. Especially the fact it allowed you to write other's characters as well.
+ Good job showing Clownpiece's struggling.
+ You focused on Clownpiece really well, and if I wasn't trying to stay neutral it would be easy to start rooting for her considering Yuuka and Syn are both playing near villain roles.
- Admittedly, you're writing a crazy fire fairy. She's not really going to have much internal turmoil.
4.5/5
Voice:
+ Good detail and reference to the setting.
+ Good varied sentence structures, you kept it interesting.
4.5/5
Realism:
I got nothing. I mean, your fairy would probably have died before she did, but you used the SP so it doesn't matter.
5/5
Technical:
Also, I can't help but notice the many errors in your text message (jokes):
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Cirno:
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Story:
+ Usually meshed with everyone else's posts well.
+ The fight seemed to progress.
- At points it seemed to read a bit like "X hits Y", "Y hits Z" etc.
- Your second post didn't really link onto Clownpiece's set up very well. You had 200 words spare, some more of them could have been used on Yuuka's tackle against Clown. Focusing on Cirno and overlapping post content is fine, but try to still link off other people's posts as well.
- On occation you seemed to ignore the damage your opponents had suffered.
2.5/5
Character:
+ You often tried to show what Cirno was thinking and feeling, even directing parts of your writing towards it. I would, however, suggest trying to do that throughout your writing, rather than as a big chunk.
- Why would Cirno be sad about her bow being gone? Wouldn't that give her more determination to win? After all, she can just create a new bow, she's a prime.
- You could definitely have played more to the fact Cirno is the only person fighting with an actual reason. She's here to help Clownpiece, at least somewhat. You could have used that more.
2/5
Voice:
+ It's easy to understand what you mean.
- At points, it feels a bit like "this happened and then this happened". Try to add some more description and link everything together better.
- The flashback didn't really feel like it was needed. At least, not as a direct one. You could have simply described Cirno thinking back to the event. If anything, it broke immersion.
- There's a lot of word repetition at points. Try to vary your vocabulary more.
- You can show instead of telling. Example:
Advice: Plan your post and try to form more compact statements. Generally describe everything more. Avoid too much repetition of words or general information.
1.5/5
Realism:
+ Your flight and high speed allowed your moves to be charged easily, especially with everyone else acting as a distraction. So there was no problem with how you wrote the moves and what everyone was doing.
+ You generally had damage, and it did take some effect on you.
- There were instances of Cirno being too strong, such as in her physical brawl with Syn.
Advice: Try to be more aware of stats.
3/5
Technical:
There are lots of minor mistakes here.
In general, you used a followed by a vowel instead of an. Fairy's instead of fairies (same for ice age's instead of ice ages). A couple of misspelt words. Try proofreading your posts more. Or use a form of spellcheck. There are good free ones out there.
1/5
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Bonus Points:
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Syn: 0 SP used
Yuuka: 2 SP used
Clownpiece: 3 SP used
Cirno: 2 SP used
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Overall Scores:
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Syn:
Story: 3
Character: 2
Voice: 1.5
Realism: 2
Technical: 1.5
SP used: 0
Total: 10
Yuuka:
Story: 4
Character: 4
Voice: 4
Realism: 5
Technical: 4.5
SP used: 2
Total: 23.5
Clownpiece:
Story: 4
Character: 4.5
Voice: 4.5
Realism: 5
Technical: 4
SP used: 3
Total: 25
Cirno:
Story: 2.5
Character: 2
Voice: 1.5
Realism: 3
Technical: 1
SP used: 2
Total: 12
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Outcome:
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Clownpiece and Cirno are Victorious!
Clownpiece takes 12 damage.
Cirno takes 18 damage.
Yuuka Kazami takes 14 damage.
Syn Shenron is dead.
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Notes:
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I can reduce Syn's damage by 1 if Clownpiece wants me to. But, he did take a couple of super attacks to the face.
Also, Clown, I got your last post as having 799 words you bamboozler. The others were 796 though. That was with wordcounter.net. I guess whatever you used didn't count the 3 it count.
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Alright, let's do this. As far as I'm aware, no one went over the word count or missed a deadline, so no penalties and stuff. Before I get to grading: good job guys. It's pretty clear that none of you were typing just to fill the word count, and you all put effort into your posts. Maybe an extra proofread here or there could have helped, but in general, good job. If my comments feel empty for you, or I didn't explicitly add an advice thing at the bottom, it probably means I was running out of stuff to say. PM me and I'll happily clarify anything.
Scoring categories (you'll get a score out of 5 for each, and don't get hung up on comparing yourself to everyone else, especially people I graded outside of this fight):
Story: I'm aware this is a random fight in the Nexus with no plot, so this is more about your ability to follow off from the previous post while showing a clear fight progression.
Character: Based around how you portrayed your character (and others). Did they have a reason to fight? Did you describe or show their thoughts and struggles? Etc. Easily likeable or hateable characters score well here, but someone with no personality (unless they're meant to have no personality and you pull it off) or someone the reader is unlikely to feel apathetic towards is unlikely to score well. (note: by unlikable I mean a well written evil villain that can still be appreciated as a character, not someone like Professor Umbridge)
Voice: Your writing style. Was it clear? Did you make it interesting or compelling to read?
Realism: Self-explanatory. Could the characters feasibly act as you described, and would they? (No one's going to stand there and just let you charge an attack)
Technical: Grammar and spelling and word use and stuff.
Syn:
[spoiler]
Story:
+ I didn't spot any inconsistencies between your posts and the ones prior. It's possible I missed something, but I reckon if I did it must have been pretty minor.
+ Your posts described a fluid fight with combat being more chaotic/strategical and less of an "X hits Y, Y hits X".
- There was little actual progression. While you stated that people had taken damage, you very rarely showed or described its effects. Essentially, ignoring some of the dialogue and context, the core content of your posts could easily have been swapped with each other.
- An extension on what I noted above, Syn didn't really alter his strategy much as the fight progressed. It was a relatively simple "all out" style. More on this in the character section.
3/5
Character:
+ You made him deal with being a Nexus freshie, somewhat. Although that quickly wore off. I reckon some words may still have been better used to recount on how sudden it all was. Or show it.
+ He had to deal with his weakened strength.
- As noted under story, Syn didn't really plan. He could have created a temporary truce with Yuuka or simply directed the fairies towards her more. Especially considering this note in your roster:
Quote:Syn is quite cunning and underhanded while planning as well, and will use most advantages he can find to give himself a better chance
Advice: You don't have to make Syn a likeable character. He's never going to really be relatable, and people aren't usually going to root for the guy who randomly goes around fighting people unless you're in DA. So, why not focus on actually writing him as evil? Cunning, manipulative, yet still struggling to achieve his evil goal. You could get a debuff move or attack to properly to the shock "I am evil" effect. Just don't spam it.
2/5
Voice:
+ Usually clear, good, and varied sentence structures. Clarity was rarely a problem for the main body of your writing.
- You tend to use more words than you need to. Often repeating things unnecessarily, or adding information twice. Example:
Quote:The only things that Syn was annoyed at about her was her flower-like smell and her casual tone and stance.Her tone being casual was implied. You could definitely condense this more. Maybe use a thesaurus occasionally for word ideas (just pick words you've already heard and know or have read before rather than something completely new).
After Yuuka casually gave Syn Shenron her name...
- You explain things in game terms fairly often. I don't think you even really described the appearance of your moves that often. Personally, I dislike this. You also don't need to be specific with measurements in your IC writing. Example:
Quote:the Negative Karma Ball slowly moved at 20MPH at Yuuka- Don't rely on bold writing to signify you spoke or thought it. It's fine to be there, but in some instances, it was almost used as a crutch. Example:
Quote:More like you are looking for a death wish, you old lady. I have faced people who have been able to destroy planets without even using all their power, but with how you look you could probably only carry a small boulder at most. I think this will only take a minute."Here, you wrote what I presume to be Syn's thoughts. However, it wasn't clearly indicated as such, and the quotation mark you added made me originally think it was dialogue. If everything makes sense and is clear with the bold and styles removed, that's fine. But if not, you need to fix it. On that note, if it was meant to be speech, I don't think it really fit with the rest of the paragraph.
Advice: Plan your post and try to form more compact statements. Generally describe everything more. Avoid too much repetition of words or general information.
1.5/5
Realism:
Quote:At that point, Syn quickly rushed at the girl, intent on quickly launching the first blow, only to hit thin air as she casually floated into the air.I know nothing came of it, but I wouldn't describe your 1 SPD character as rushing unless you have burst movement.
Quote:as he finished charging and started to exhale his Mystic Breath to blow these small bullets away from himHow did he get this charged before at least some of the bullets hit him?
Quote:As the time Syn Shenron counted reached 7 seconds, the ball of negative energy was finally above the woman7 seconds is a while, why is Yuuka not shooting Syn?
Quote:Syn was once again trying to to charge his Negative Karma Ball, but at that moment, the second person, another fairy person with wings of ice, interrupted them.This is good. With your fight style, this should have happened more often, however (besides for the finger laser thing).
Quote:By the time he was finished charging his breath for the Mystic BreathAgain, you and Yuuka would probably have taken some damage from Cirno before you finished charging.
There are a few more similar things like that I would comment on, but generally, you had mostly realistic damage and fatigue and the way you described things generally fit people's stats. Although, one other thing to note:
You breath move only has a width of 2 inches yet Cirno's moves do spray, so wouldn't really be easily targetable with it unless you had a super high TEC (so could blow each individual shard).
So, in general, you need to work on your fight awareness.
2/5
Technical:
Quote:"And my name is Syn Shenron, though you will not need to know that where your going."*you're
Quote:Before he could create the second Negative Karma Ball however, Syn
Quote:Before Syn could continue talking however*needs a comma before 'however'
Quote:Syn was once again trying to to charge*delete one of the 'to's
Quote:Syn quickly said "Oh just shut up and let us fight!"*punctuation is needed after 'said'. So either:
Syn quickly said: "Oh just shut up and let us fight!"
OR
Syn quickly said, "Oh just shut up and let us fight!"
Quote:they were a lot better off then the Shadow Dragon.*than
I would be more forgiving if it was just typos, but some of these mistakes were fairly basic. Maybe give it an extra proofread or two before posting?
1.5/5
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Yuuka:
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Story:
+ Merged with everyone else's posts fairly well.
+ Fluid combat
+ Good progression
+ Some strategy, example:
Quote:Rapidly she realized her parasol was doing a grand total of nothing of note against Syn.
Essentially, the main thing that's really missing is fitting this into the bigger picture. As part of your super big story for your character. Although I guess that wasn't an option here. That said, the only other thing I can really say is to vary up the attacks a bit more and how you attack. Like damaging someone's legs rather than just shooting them.
4/5
Character:
+ Banter was good.
+ She changed throughout the fight (more anger and annoyance and stuff later on).
+ You generally covered how she was feeling and what she was thinking consistently, implicitly or explicitly.
- I think you could have done more. Quite a lot of raw fight content happens in your posts, and you generally focus on Yuuka more subtly. Which is fine, but it prevents someone who doesn't know much about her from actually connecting with her in any way.
4/5
Voice:
+ I like your writing style, and you generally use good and varied sentence structure.
- Finer details were lacking in some areas. I don't think you really described the setting outside of crashing into the floor, and although this is the Nexus so it's not that important, finer details of your actual attacks and their impacts would be good. Rather than having someone be hit by petal bullets, describe how they were hit by petal bullets. You can decrease the actual number of attacks in your post and just focus on making those you write look really snazzy.
Another note:
Quote:Seriously. Seriously? Could this day get any stranger?Shouldn't this be in italics? You used those for thought earlier.
4/5
Realism:
Quote:For what it was worth, Cirno and Clownpiece had both seen this attack enough to know to immediately make an attempt to dodge or fire back.That is incorrect. Characters lose knowledge of the capabilities of others upon entering the Omniverse. So Luke Skywalker would know nothing about Palpatine. Sauron would know nothing about Aragorn. And so on. That said, if both sides agree, you could have someone "remember" stuff about your character, or vice versa. Otherwise, you'd need insight. I'm not taking this into account since you're giving them the information, but if you'd had info on Clownpiece without Clown saying "sure, remember this thing" OOC there'd be a problem.
+ Generally had people acting as their stats suggested, which was good.
5/5
Technical:
Quote:She made her attempt at guiding the attack a bit through her parasol, but wasn’t terribly successful*comma is not needed. But, for example:
Quote:She made her attempt at guiding the attack a bit through her parasol, but it wasn’t terribly successfulIs correct because both clauses (underlined parts) are independent.
Essentially, you can put a comma before 'and', 'but', etc. when you're joining two clauses that make sense on their own.
BUT, if one doesn't make sense on its own, and you connect it with 'and', 'but', etc. then don't use a comma.
However, if there are three or more clauses there you do have to use commas.
I'm 90% sure that's correct but if I'm wrong here please tell me.
Quote:However, it was the followup that mattered*should be hyphenated. It's not a single word.
4.5/5
Super general tip: try writing other people's characters more. Especially the dialogue. You're limiting yourself by foddering it in. While it could go wrong, you'll get good at it eventually if you're not already.
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Clownpiece:
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Story:
+ I didn't spot any inconsistencies.
+ It was fluid, good job varying it up with yours and everyone else's attacks.
+ The fight felt like it was progressing.
- Perhaps make damage take more or a role in restricting what people can do. Like damaging limbs or making it hard to aim due to injuries. Obviously, don't go overboard unless you've actually got a debuff for it.
4/5
Character:
+ Good dialogue. That really added to it. Especially the fact it allowed you to write other's characters as well.
+ Good job showing Clownpiece's struggling.
+ You focused on Clownpiece really well, and if I wasn't trying to stay neutral it would be easy to start rooting for her considering Yuuka and Syn are both playing near villain roles.
- Admittedly, you're writing a crazy fire fairy. She's not really going to have much internal turmoil.
4.5/5
Voice:
+ Good detail and reference to the setting.
+ Good varied sentence structures, you kept it interesting.
4.5/5
Realism:
I got nothing. I mean, your fairy would probably have died before she did, but you used the SP so it doesn't matter.
5/5
Technical:
Quote:First she needed to know*missing comma after 'first'.
Quote:It wasn’t the rainbow display she’d seen before, but still Clownpiece felt her blood run cold, the color falling away from her face.*comma needed after still
Quote:dropped her hand back down the her side*to
Also, I can't help but notice the many errors in your text message (jokes):
Quote:fight ib tje nexis get ocer here4/5
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Cirno:
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Story:
+ Usually meshed with everyone else's posts well.
+ The fight seemed to progress.
- At points it seemed to read a bit like "X hits Y", "Y hits Z" etc.
- Your second post didn't really link onto Clownpiece's set up very well. You had 200 words spare, some more of them could have been used on Yuuka's tackle against Clown. Focusing on Cirno and overlapping post content is fine, but try to still link off other people's posts as well.
- On occation you seemed to ignore the damage your opponents had suffered.
2.5/5
Character:
+ You often tried to show what Cirno was thinking and feeling, even directing parts of your writing towards it. I would, however, suggest trying to do that throughout your writing, rather than as a big chunk.
- Why would Cirno be sad about her bow being gone? Wouldn't that give her more determination to win? After all, she can just create a new bow, she's a prime.
- You could definitely have played more to the fact Cirno is the only person fighting with an actual reason. She's here to help Clownpiece, at least somewhat. You could have used that more.
2/5
Voice:
+ It's easy to understand what you mean.
- At points, it feels a bit like "this happened and then this happened". Try to add some more description and link everything together better.
- The flashback didn't really feel like it was needed. At least, not as a direct one. You could have simply described Cirno thinking back to the event. If anything, it broke immersion.
- There's a lot of word repetition at points. Try to vary your vocabulary more.
- You can show instead of telling. Example:
Quote:her bow gone . . . "m-my bow is gone?"You really didn't need both of these parts.
Advice: Plan your post and try to form more compact statements. Generally describe everything more. Avoid too much repetition of words or general information.
1.5/5
Realism:
+ Your flight and high speed allowed your moves to be charged easily, especially with everyone else acting as a distraction. So there was no problem with how you wrote the moves and what everyone was doing.
+ You generally had damage, and it did take some effect on you.
- There were instances of Cirno being too strong, such as in her physical brawl with Syn.
Advice: Try to be more aware of stats.
3/5
Technical:
There are lots of minor mistakes here.
Quote:Im heading back to help Clownpiece*I'm
Quote:than most fairy's can if you recall*fairies (fairy's means "fairy is")
Quote:started to create a Icicle bomb*an
Quote:Ah yes its the local ice idiot.*missing comma
Quote:"I'm Cirno the strongest fairy; and the person who calls someone a idiot is the idiot!"either use a comma followed by 'and' OR just a semi-colon
Quote: for a que it blew up gi*cue (if you mean a signal for something, the word you want is cue)
Quote: gets a few hits on her before its a game of dodging*it's
Quote:Once both attacks had finished there runs*their
Quote:She turned to face the dragon and smiled with cruelity*cruelty
In general, you used a followed by a vowel instead of an. Fairy's instead of fairies (same for ice age's instead of ice ages). A couple of misspelt words. Try proofreading your posts more. Or use a form of spellcheck. There are good free ones out there.
1/5
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Bonus Points:
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Syn: 0 SP used
Yuuka: 2 SP used
Clownpiece: 3 SP used
Cirno: 2 SP used
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Overall Scores:
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Syn:
Story: 3
Character: 2
Voice: 1.5
Realism: 2
Technical: 1.5
SP used: 0
Total: 10
Yuuka:
Story: 4
Character: 4
Voice: 4
Realism: 5
Technical: 4.5
SP used: 2
Total: 23.5
Clownpiece:
Story: 4
Character: 4.5
Voice: 4.5
Realism: 5
Technical: 4
SP used: 3
Total: 25
Cirno:
Story: 2.5
Character: 2
Voice: 1.5
Realism: 3
Technical: 1
SP used: 2
Total: 12
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Outcome:
[spoiler]
Clownpiece and Cirno are Victorious!
Clownpiece takes 12 damage.
Cirno takes 18 damage.
Yuuka Kazami takes 14 damage.
Syn Shenron is dead.
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Notes:
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I can reduce Syn's damage by 1 if Clownpiece wants me to. But, he did take a couple of super attacks to the face.
Also, Clown, I got your last post as having 799 words you bamboozler. The others were 796 though. That was with wordcounter.net. I guess whatever you used didn't count the 3 it count.
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