05-10-2017, 12:31 PM
We could have made countless things, and we chose a hat?
Dane thought to himself as he placed the object on his head lopsidedly, with a dumb expression on his face, before returning his hands to his swords. The ball of Omnilium has melted back into his body after completing it's purpose.
It was actually a fair option. It confirmed that we can create, or summon, things. It doesn't reveal anything about our combat strength, style, or ability; it will probably make Axey underestimate us; and it was simple enough that it didn't take too long to create.
And we wanted a hat.
That too. And I didn't want to mess up our first creation. Now we can bring it everywhere like some magical artefact.
“I figured it’s best to start small. Besides, we don’t know if we’re stealing these things from our world, or creating them.” Dane reasoned, shrugging. Although, he was fairly sure they were being created, he didn't want to eliminate the possibility of stealing yet. That did bring up the question if he, Axe, and the others were created here - but Dane's memories and complex background made him put that possibility to the back of his mind for now. It contradicted with Omni, who had stated, "You interest me, so I have made you part of [the Omniverse]". If Dane was created for this world, Omni wouldn't have been able to find him interesting prior to him coming here. That said, Dane did consider this to be a topic of interest for later due to the lack of proper explanation for his presence here. Especially the part where Omni has said he was "nothing" without Omnilium, which seems to suggest he was created here. It all seemed contradicting, like he was missing something. Dane figured he would probably kick himself later should the answer be obvious.
That sets off a lot of warning sirens.
I agree, I don't think getting involved with his schemes will actually benefit us. If he's here, the chances are there's probably someone else like him. And probably some resistance to it with other "interesting" individuals. He might have been able to have that attitude where he was from, but he'll get crushed here. Supporting him will likely just make enemies for us, and we don't want that. We want the allies and support to pursue research in magic and technology, and perhaps to meet Omni as well.
He ain't exactly a nice guy, and that just makes him seem impulsive. He's definitely got some self control, but caution is underrated if anything. Maybe he meant fear, that's overrated. It achieves nothing.
If he wanted us to make a death weapon, he should have made it himself.
The hat has already accomplished something. We know rough details about what we can create and how long it will take.
You never know, that hat could block out a blinding light enough to make a decisive difference one day.
He's probably just jealous.
Dane straightened his back to decrease their difference in height by at least a small margin, before opening his mouth to speak boldly. "I beg to differ. Caution is paramount when following ambitions. It never prevents them, only delays at most. And, it assures that you will succeed. It just needs to be used well. Being wary when crossing a rickety old bridge, for example, is perfectly warranted. Test it before risking everything and plunging to your doom. Sure it took you longer to cross the bridge, and only if you were under a very pressing time limit would it be worth running across like a madman regardless. But that begs the question, is it worth it? Is the gain worth the risk? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But why do you even care? Does it really matter if you fail and don't succeed? Maybe, maybe not."
Dane paused briefly to recompose his thoughts before continuing, he needed to stop going off on tangents. "But then there's you. You just want dominion over the world and it's people. Why? And what then? And what after that? Because you think you're better than everyone else? Because you enjoy fighting back against the new enemies you've made, until either of you crumbles? Or because you think you can rule better than anyone else? Either way, you're nothing without people to follow and submit to you. If everyone said no, leaving you on your own, you would get no where. I do not care about the wars or battles you've won or lost. They say nothing about you, only that you got lucky by having weak followers, or had secondaries that were near copies of yourself." Again, he projected his voice, but a slight tint of apathy resonated alongside.
That's slightly wrong, all things considered. Winning a battle decisively does say good things. Management of resources and soldiers to secure an outcome, especially when it looks like a loss is likely, or you're outnumbered. It's more the way he brags about domination that gives me a bad opinion of him. Bragging about coordinating a defence against some big bad army would have more of an impact on me. And using the victory to secure peace and an end to the war more so.
"And I will not become one of them, Axemerax. If you push me, I will push back. My agenda is my own." Dane drew his shorter sword, and idly played with it in his left hand - not in a directly aggressive way. "All that said, what's the point? You're here in some new world and no one besides maybe Omni knows who you are. Why not consider a new goal? One that was nigh impossible before? Heck, if you were just searching for a rival, you've got Omni - the likely provider of the power we now wield."
Despite Dane's outburst, Axemerax didn't really bother him. A perceptive listener might have noticed that from the lack of passion in his voice. Dane could relate to the desire to control or rule over a world, though for him it was just to promote knowledge and good ways of thinking. He wished banging people's heads together helped in that department, but he suspected it probably wouldn't. Not that he had much test data to support either conclusion. That said, he didn't see the alien as a reliable partner. Though that didn't mean much. Outside of soldiers following his orders, only three individuals he'd met had followed his criteria. All of which were dead due to Dane's actions - directly or otherwise, he knew it was his responsibility.
When it came to motives, Dane was unsure what Axemerax had hoped to gain in his past (assuming what he said was true). But he thought it was most likely that either the alien simply wanted to dominate other beings, or was looking for a challenge. Dane could respect the latter somewhat. He had to. He'd been the same and done the same, albeit in a different way. He was even doing it now somewhat by potentially provoking his conversation partner. It was originally an unconscious habit of his that he'd become aware of and embraced. Provoking or setting up potential fights with dangerous individuals or parties just so he could best them. And if they started it physically, as what usually occurred, he was just executing self defence. They were to blame for any violence, not him. Though he doubted that would hold up in court back home anymore since he'd had half the dukes and the church on his back. Now though, he probably should be more careful, he thought. He didn't even know if there were enforced laws here, or if they remained the same as back home - though he suspected most laws would be fairly similar. All sapient creatures were basically the same in thought after all, Dane figured, despite his lacking sample size.
On second thoughts, this hat is kinda itchy.
Dane thought to himself as he placed the object on his head lopsidedly, with a dumb expression on his face, before returning his hands to his swords. The ball of Omnilium has melted back into his body after completing it's purpose.
Quote:“We can create existence itself, shape reality to our whims, and you… you create a hat?”He agrees.
It was actually a fair option. It confirmed that we can create, or summon, things. It doesn't reveal anything about our combat strength, style, or ability; it will probably make Axey underestimate us; and it was simple enough that it didn't take too long to create.
And we wanted a hat.
That too. And I didn't want to mess up our first creation. Now we can bring it everywhere like some magical artefact.
“I figured it’s best to start small. Besides, we don’t know if we’re stealing these things from our world, or creating them.” Dane reasoned, shrugging. Although, he was fairly sure they were being created, he didn't want to eliminate the possibility of stealing yet. That did bring up the question if he, Axe, and the others were created here - but Dane's memories and complex background made him put that possibility to the back of his mind for now. It contradicted with Omni, who had stated, "You interest me, so I have made you part of [the Omniverse]". If Dane was created for this world, Omni wouldn't have been able to find him interesting prior to him coming here. That said, Dane did consider this to be a topic of interest for later due to the lack of proper explanation for his presence here. Especially the part where Omni has said he was "nothing" without Omnilium, which seems to suggest he was created here. It all seemed contradicting, like he was missing something. Dane figured he would probably kick himself later should the answer be obvious.
Quote:“Caution is highly overrated,”replied Axemerax. His monotone voice left much to interpretation.
Quote:“Nothing should stop progress, or your ambition. Not laws. Not morals. You do not seek 15 minutes of glory, or to surround yourself with fools grown fat on the spoils of war. You build whatever machine you deem necessary to pierce the hells and heavens, and in the last few moments of their existence, you punish them for presuming they could demand your allegiance.”
That sets off a lot of warning sirens.
I agree, I don't think getting involved with his schemes will actually benefit us. If he's here, the chances are there's probably someone else like him. And probably some resistance to it with other "interesting" individuals. He might have been able to have that attitude where he was from, but he'll get crushed here. Supporting him will likely just make enemies for us, and we don't want that. We want the allies and support to pursue research in magic and technology, and perhaps to meet Omni as well.
He ain't exactly a nice guy, and that just makes him seem impulsive. He's definitely got some self control, but caution is underrated if anything. Maybe he meant fear, that's overrated. It achieves nothing.
If he wanted us to make a death weapon, he should have made it himself.
Quote:“You will accomplish precious little with a hat.”Axemerax spat over the translated dialogue.
The hat has already accomplished something. We know rough details about what we can create and how long it will take.
You never know, that hat could block out a blinding light enough to make a decisive difference one day.
He's probably just jealous.
Dane straightened his back to decrease their difference in height by at least a small margin, before opening his mouth to speak boldly. "I beg to differ. Caution is paramount when following ambitions. It never prevents them, only delays at most. And, it assures that you will succeed. It just needs to be used well. Being wary when crossing a rickety old bridge, for example, is perfectly warranted. Test it before risking everything and plunging to your doom. Sure it took you longer to cross the bridge, and only if you were under a very pressing time limit would it be worth running across like a madman regardless. But that begs the question, is it worth it? Is the gain worth the risk? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But why do you even care? Does it really matter if you fail and don't succeed? Maybe, maybe not."
Dane paused briefly to recompose his thoughts before continuing, he needed to stop going off on tangents. "But then there's you. You just want dominion over the world and it's people. Why? And what then? And what after that? Because you think you're better than everyone else? Because you enjoy fighting back against the new enemies you've made, until either of you crumbles? Or because you think you can rule better than anyone else? Either way, you're nothing without people to follow and submit to you. If everyone said no, leaving you on your own, you would get no where. I do not care about the wars or battles you've won or lost. They say nothing about you, only that you got lucky by having weak followers, or had secondaries that were near copies of yourself." Again, he projected his voice, but a slight tint of apathy resonated alongside.
That's slightly wrong, all things considered. Winning a battle decisively does say good things. Management of resources and soldiers to secure an outcome, especially when it looks like a loss is likely, or you're outnumbered. It's more the way he brags about domination that gives me a bad opinion of him. Bragging about coordinating a defence against some big bad army would have more of an impact on me. And using the victory to secure peace and an end to the war more so.
"And I will not become one of them, Axemerax. If you push me, I will push back. My agenda is my own." Dane drew his shorter sword, and idly played with it in his left hand - not in a directly aggressive way. "All that said, what's the point? You're here in some new world and no one besides maybe Omni knows who you are. Why not consider a new goal? One that was nigh impossible before? Heck, if you were just searching for a rival, you've got Omni - the likely provider of the power we now wield."
Despite Dane's outburst, Axemerax didn't really bother him. A perceptive listener might have noticed that from the lack of passion in his voice. Dane could relate to the desire to control or rule over a world, though for him it was just to promote knowledge and good ways of thinking. He wished banging people's heads together helped in that department, but he suspected it probably wouldn't. Not that he had much test data to support either conclusion. That said, he didn't see the alien as a reliable partner. Though that didn't mean much. Outside of soldiers following his orders, only three individuals he'd met had followed his criteria. All of which were dead due to Dane's actions - directly or otherwise, he knew it was his responsibility.
When it came to motives, Dane was unsure what Axemerax had hoped to gain in his past (assuming what he said was true). But he thought it was most likely that either the alien simply wanted to dominate other beings, or was looking for a challenge. Dane could respect the latter somewhat. He had to. He'd been the same and done the same, albeit in a different way. He was even doing it now somewhat by potentially provoking his conversation partner. It was originally an unconscious habit of his that he'd become aware of and embraced. Provoking or setting up potential fights with dangerous individuals or parties just so he could best them. And if they started it physically, as what usually occurred, he was just executing self defence. They were to blame for any violence, not him. Though he doubted that would hold up in court back home anymore since he'd had half the dukes and the church on his back. Now though, he probably should be more careful, he thought. He didn't even know if there were enforced laws here, or if they remained the same as back home - though he suspected most laws would be fairly similar. All sapient creatures were basically the same in thought after all, Dane figured, despite his lacking sample size.
On second thoughts, this hat is kinda itchy.
Quote:OOC note: I'm not trying to set us up for a fight here, though I guess I'd be game if you want to duel at level 1 or if it's in Axemerax's character to initiate one. Dane was willing to act more submissive when Axemerax was manipulating from the sidelines, but when Axe started broadcasting his more militaristic agenda directly, Dane decided to jump off that ship before it could sail.