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Transformations vs Super Moves
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Toori Aoi Wrote:Tier 1 Transformations (or Assists, for that matter) cost 2 SP per round, right?

actually, I think you've misread the information;

Tier 1 Assist – 5 stats – 1 SP per post – 1000 OM
Tier 2 Assist – 10 stats – 2 SP per post – 1500 OM
Tier 3 Assist – 20 stats – 4 SP per post – 2000 OM

Quote:But from a purely mechanical standpoint; aren't they significantly worse in combat than a Super Move would be? Honestly, given that most injuries are caused by Super Attacks, whilst even attacks from someone with a Tier 2 transformation will usually just inflict Accumulated Damage, I'm not sure that they'd hold a candle from a Mechanical perspective even if they didn't cost double the SP.

You shouldn't look at things here from a purely mechanical stand point, it's a bad habit to get into because not everything here will work as the mechanics might dictate, plus it can get confusing and what not. At the same time, both super moves and transformations have different uses that will often compliment each other in a game play and role playing sense.

Also, you have to remember that a transformation/ power up temporarily buffs your stats, which also means that any moves you have (barring super moves I think) will have their effective power increased. Super moves, however, do not buff stats at all. They are a single attack/ defense that may drain your energy much faster than a transformation (if you're using them in quick succession).

Quote:It seems to me that a more efficient method of using a power-up might be to just buy a Super Defence and Super Attack, and only use those (along with the Shapeshifting power or an Alternate Form to make your character look different, if you wanted) during your "transformation", so as to make it seem like they were just powered-up versions of basic moves.

You're going to waste a lot of energy this way, maintaining a shape shift while also spamming super moves like that. Also, like you said, it would only seem like you've powered up. In reality, the only scary thing about this combination would be the use of a super attack to finish your post.

Quote:For the same price as maintaining a Tier 1 transformation for an entire fight (6 SP), you could use a Tier 1 Defensive- or Utility-Type Super Move in every single one of your posts, plus end each of those posts by launching a Tier 1 Super Attack.

So am I missing something here? Or do a few extra stat points really make so much of a difference that they make up for this?

Again, you misread the SP costs Tongue

Tier 1 Power-Up – Adds 5 stats – 1 SP per post – 1000 OM
Tier 2 Power-Up – Adds 10 stats – 2 SP per post – 1500 OM
Tier 3 Power-Up – Adds 20 stats – 4 SP per post – 2000 OM

Tier 1 Powered-Up Form – 15 stats total – 1 SP per post – 1000 OM
Tier 2 Powered-Up Form – 20 stats total – 2 SP per post – 1500 OM
Tier 3 Powered-Up Form – 30 stats total – 4 SP per post – 2000 OM

Also, doing things like that in a fight would almost guarantee complete exhaustion after only a few rounds. Considering exhaustion is represented as much more than just SP loss in an actual fight. A lot of fights may never have any super moves used, so exhaustion in a fight can't just be summed up as how much SP you've used. Also, most people won't opt for maintaining their transformation/ power up for an entire fight.

and if I'm wrong/ have the wrong idea about anything I just replied with, a mod/admin will correct me.
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