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Unconventional uses for moves
#1
Can I use a move in a manner that is not expressly spelled out in the description but makes sense from a logical perspective?

Example - Kuzuru's "Demon Blades" move allows him to sprout four blades anywhere on his body. Could he in turn use this to sprout one blade on each limb and use them to climb a wall even though wallclimbing isn't written as an ability for the move?

Another example would be Strazio use a breach bolt or some other explosive move to cushion a fall by firing it towards the ground.

Basically I guess I'm asking how much freedom do we have in regards to improvising uses for our moves before we have to pay for another function?
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#2
I'd say you're good. No one would complain if someone used a normal pair of daggers to help climb a mountain. S'long as your swords can cut through the thing you're climbing, you're good there. And for the explosion, I don't see a problem if you could reasonably execute it and it's strong enough to push people back. But, you'd probably get hurt by your explosion, unless you have a non-damaging explosion move.

If you can reasonably use your move for some other utility purpose, then yeah, I'd say you can do that.
#3
Just to add a qualifying statement to Dane's response, in non PVP stuff, then you should be completely fine. If you are in a fight, you might get slightly dinged on power, (similarly to using an incidental weapon) like Dane said though, if the narrative supports your aim you should probably be fine.
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#4
I don't want to be the downer especially as staff have answered but the answer is almost certainly no in your example of using those swords to climb (that would in any way actually assist in climbing beyond what you could do normally without the move)

To quote the rules


Quote:Moves must always be delimited in the descriptions. Please avoid being too vague and open. The point is that we charge you for each different 'use' of a move, roughly speaking. So if you later reveal in your role-plays that your energy shield can also be used as a magic crowbar, we're going to consider that an exploit unless you mentioned it could do that in the description.
If you can't even use an energy shield to pry things up, a reasonable utility, your desire is right out. Especially using that explosion as a defensive move.
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#5
Would anyone actually complain if you used a shield to pry something open?
It may be written in the Rules, but somehow I doubt it... especially since it wouldn't be something that would take place during a fight... since you'd presumably be more intent on using your shield to not die. So doing that wouldn't even give you any advantage over just writing "and then my character saw a crowbar lying on the ground and used it to open the thing".

Let's be honest, if you were to read a thread in which someone used an energy shield to pry open something (which is something that a regular, ordinary shield could totally be used for, by the way, and so according to the balancing effect of Omniphysics should totally be allowed) would you really start PMing mods and quoting that paragraph and demanding that the person edit their post?
Of course not.
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#6
This may be something Greg would have to take a second look at.

Nixxing good writing, cleverness, and common sense (even for the Omniverse) with such a straightjacket interpretation leads to the inevitable ridiculous situation where you can't use your favorite dagger to cut your steak dinner.
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#7
To go back to the original question

(04-24-2018, 01:45 PM)Kuzuru Wrote: Can I use a move in a manner that is not expressly spelled out in the description but makes sense from a logical perspective?

Example - Kuzuru's "Demon Blades" move allows him to sprout four blades anywhere on his body. Could he in turn use this to sprout one blade on each limb and use them to climb a wall even though wallclimbing isn't written as an ability for the move?

Another example would be Strazio use a breach bolt or some other explosive move to cushion a fall by firing it towards the ground.

Basically I guess I'm asking how much freedom do we have in regards to improvising uses for our moves before we have to pay for another function?

If it's not an official event/ competitive situation or PVP, go ahead. If you want to carry over these kinds of things into the former mentioned situations, It'll probably cost you.

Edit: Though I should stress, do these things within reason. Don't go crazy.


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