THIS IS GLOBALLY IMPORTANT: Government Compliance Game

[Undyne]

I highly doubt that if this system works out they'll stay with "mild inconveniances". Like in the video... you might not be allowed to apply to a certain job (which in politics might make sense, of course). Now what if someone "accidentally" misfiles your application to official documents like driver's licenses so you have to file stuff all over again, your ISP cuts your access entirely or the police arrests you for no reason given? You couldn't prove that it's linked to your Sesame Credits account, really.

The social aspect is of course making this even worse though.

[Thaal Sinestro]

I mean, they aren't going to pretend it's an accident. They'll say, "it well take you an extra for months to get your license because your score is too low."

They will have a list if ISPs for lower scoring people. These people will likely be subject to random arrests. I mean, that shit happens NOW.

[Victor Wolfe]

I assume riots will ensue...

Nope, protest is legal in China but only against businesses , anything government related is not allowed to be protested, And the last time people tried was Tienanmen square and that turned out badly and here is the kicker, if not for an American(I think) reporter had not hidden the footage he filmed of it then we would probably never even know it happened. Also as far as I can see no international laws are being broken. Also even if they were I doubt the rest of the world would do anything about it , China is very quickly becoming the worlds top super power and a lot of the world is in debt to them (including the US).

[Thaal Sinestro]

They're expecting a production bubble crash in the next five to ten years also, so that's gonna blow lol

[Tartaros]

They're expecting a production bubble crash in the next five to ten years also, so that's gonna blow lol

Yeeeeep. Becoming more and more likely with increased automation slowly killing China's production ability, which is focused around large amounts of workers producing decent quality products on low wages. Honestly, the situation for workers in China (and east Asia in general) is still pretty screwed up. Then again, automation is another can of worms altogether that can cause some serious issues.

[Thaal Sinestro]

Well, and overall their production demand has been on a downward trend for the past few years, and is actively shrinking. They're going to be trying to transition into a consumption economy soon, like America did after our production crash.

Only instead of trying to deliver better social services to starving families, it'll be China.

[Magus]

This is really telling of how things are in China. Is there anything that can be done about this? I don't know shit about politics (especially internationally), but how can this not be squashed by the UN as a human rights violation? I know China is part of the UN, but Christ. Even if it doesn't directly harm people, the effects are plain as day, as noted in the video.

...Is the UN doing anything about us violating human rights in the middle east?

More importantly, China's the law. If they want to do something horrible, there's not much anybody can do about it. They're acting within their rights as a sovereign nation.

For instance, everything brought to light about the NSA has been a colossal human rights violation - what has anyone done about it? In a sense, it's even -worse- than what's going on in China, because at least they have the decency to tell their citizens about it.

Besides, you can't sanction a country you depend on, and you can't threaten a country like China because nobody can stand up to them. America might have cooler toys but they can't even get close to being able to afford to go toe to toe with China, financially or economically.

Basically, China can do whatever they want.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Whelp, that sucks.

[Trixie]

This is really telling of how things are in China. Is there anything that can be done about this? I don't know shit about politics (especially internationally), but how can this not be squashed by the UN as a human rights violation? I know China is part of the UN, but Christ. Even if it doesn't directly harm people, the effects are plain as day, as noted in the video.

...Is the UN doing anything about us violating human rights in the middle east?

More importantly, China's the law. If they want to do something horrible, there's not much anybody can do about it. They're acting within their rights as a sovereign nation.

For instance, everything brought to light about the NSA has been a colossal human rights violation - what has anyone done about it? In a sense, it's even -worse- than what's going on in China, because at least they have the decency to tell their citizens about it.

Besides, you can't sanction a country you depend on, and you can't threaten a country like China because nobody can stand up to them. America might have cooler toys but they can't even get close to being able to afford to go toe to toe with China, financially or economically.

Basically, China can do whatever they want.

Ah the Red Chinese. :yohoho:

[Thaal Sinestro]

There are ways we can control China's behavior, and we've done it in the past, but this is a "fuzzy" issue that nobody would politically move forward to stop from happening, even in less powerful countries. The UN heavily relies on supporting public disapproval as a means of policing political control.

[Thaal Sinestro]

Which, ya know, is the point of this program. To prevent people from public dissent.

Ya know, as much as people don't want to believe it, the Chinese government is still super super vulnerable to public disapproval. IF the One Party system is hit with too much scrutiny from the populous, shit is gonna fall apart. That's why programs such as this, which QUELL public dissent in a quiet, clean manner, are so dangerous.