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So to fix a simple issue here... - Retane - 12-22-2015
I'm going to make sure with Jack Frost first, but since he has been slacking and had lack of internet, he never got around to requesting Gollum as an NPC.
I got a polite warning about using him when Omni read a few of my posts around DA. I told Omni that Jack would request him as a NPC for the next time he used him(Cuz Jack Frost has a story with him later). That or we would Rename the creature.(I actually have to request the Jeff Dunham puppets as a site NPC(OMni said he guessed he would have to make them site NPC's)
Thing is, I wanted to use Gollum in the next chapter of Probitas' story line... There may be issues of getting him approved...
So what I am wondering is if I can henceforth call the character Mullog? He comes from unknown and so on. He has similar traits as the afore mentioned, but yeah. Would this be ok?
Re: So to fix a simple issue here... - Dark Link - 12-22-2015
Well, for starters, that isn't really a 'simple' issue. Furthermore, you really should have known better than to use a character even before he has been approved. I understand your eagerness, but you really should look before you leap. >_>
In any case, since you've already been reprimanded about this matter and since you did come forward to try and find a solution, we won't just delete everything you've done. However, you also can't keep using Gollum and can't retcon what you've done with the character so far by simply changing his name. Instead, you will write Gollum out of the story and, if necessary, introduce a brand new secondary NPC of your own. This NPC can be similar to Gollum if you like, but they do have to be a different person with their own identity, not just a carbon copy of Gollum.
Re: So to fix a simple issue here... - Retane - 12-27-2015
Well, before I continue, I'd like to apologize in advance if my information is wrong or not 100% correct (because I'm pulling from my memory and it's been like 7 plus months since this occured). Plus I hope it doesn't come off as rude.
As for if I should have known better, well I forget the rules and have to go check them frequently. But sure, maybe I should have. Pretty sure I had been texting Alex quite a bit, asking questions about the whole thing and had come under the assumption he had given me permission for Asuma and Kenny permission for Golum.
I could be wrong.
Omni saw it and talked to me about it. Pretty sure this was the explanation I gave him or similar. I didn't lie and mentioned I had used the Dunham puppets. He even let me use the puppets in DA and said he guessed they would have to become site NPC's.
I told Omni I guess we would have to apply them to be site NPC's or change there names, since if a npc is applied for to be a pc that is what two of the options are anyways.
It was my assumption this was fine by Omni...
Asuma became a site npc. So why is neither option ok for Golum?
And why would someone want to delete my hardwork? It's this very notion t hat some wants to do such a thing really irks me.
As for writing Golum out, we haven't used him since or mentioned him, so he currently is.
And without even rereading the story, I'm almost positive with a few edits to a few posts regarding the n a me and even the removal of the word precious, that Jacks npc can be fixed to be an entirely new character.
So...I'm trying to figure the real problem here. My assumption and instinct tells me it has something to do with some unhappy person wanting to delete my stuff.
Re: So to fix a simple issue here... - Sasuke Uchiha - 12-29-2015
Retane Wrote:And without even rereading the story, I'm almost positive with a few edits to a few posts regarding the n a me and even the removal of the word precious, that Jacks npc can be fixed to be an entirely new character.
So...I'm trying to figure the real problem here. My assumption and instinct tells me it has something to do with some unhappy person wanting to delete my stuff.
If you are worried that your work will just be deleted for illegal use of a non approved canon npc, I wanted to pop in and assure you that your work would not be lost. If staff did decide that they did, indeed, need to retcon your post, they would save a copy and PM it to you first, with a message of why and what needed to be changed, as is staff policy here. Your work won't just be deleted without remorse.
Not really answering your question, but attempting to quell your fears, at least in this regard. No worries, mang.
Re: So to fix a simple issue here... - Dark Link - 01-01-2016
What Sasuke said is correct. Deleting a violating post and PMing it back to the author for editing is standard procedure. There is no conspiracy theory to be had here, so you can safely put away your tin foil hat. :tinfoil:
More seriously, from what I can tell, the issue seems to be that you mistook personal correspondence as official approval. Here's the thing you have to understand. Even if we presume that all your assumptions are correct (though I think it's worth remembering what happens when you assume
), it wouldn't change the fact that you hadn't submitted the NPC for approval (until recently, at least) and that you had used him without permission. All NPCs have to be submitted for approval in the Submit an NPC thread and an admin needs to post their approval in that same thread. Even if Proto or Omni were to give you their blessing to do something in a private conversation, that still wouldn't mean that you could just skip the usual process. Ultimately, an approval outside the forum itself doesn't count for much; no matter who they are, everyone has to follow standard procedure (and one of the reasons for this is precisely to avoid ambiguity).
As for your point about edits, I'm afraid that what you're proposing isn't an acceptable solution. Simply changing the name wouldn't magically turn him into a different character. It would just render him a carbon copy.
In any case, since you've already written Gollum out of the story, as long as you refrain from using him, then this matter is settled. We'll see if Gollum can be set up to be a Site NPC.