Hideaki Yajima Wrote:

Sasuke Uchiha Wrote:And yes, the prime could essentially summon the secondary, however, this secondary wouldn't know of its experiences in the Underverse, because the prime made it and the prime does not have knowledge of those experiences. It's like how you can't summon books on topics your prime doesn't know enough about.

Now that's interesting. Does the same apply when summoning Secondaries from your own world? I'd assume so, but that seems like kind of a big deal. Shouldn't it be mentioned in the Rules somewhere that every single Secondary has had massive memory loss upon coming here? Because there's no way their Prime (no matter how close they were) could possibly have known every insignificant little detail of their lives, surely?

Or does this not apply? I'm not entirely sure whether Minato's comment overruled this or whether it was meant to apply in addition to the whole memory loss thing. Honestly, I never really understood the ruling all that well even when it applied to books. You'd think if people can summon chocobos by having played FFII this one time then surely so much as having a vague memory of the cover image ought to be enough to summon a book... but that ruling's already been made. Not much point in discussing it now, I guess.

Hideaki Yajima Wrote:

Minato Namikaze Wrote:Essentially creating two versions of the same secondary.

How would you rule on summoning a Secondary trapped in another location, though? Let's say they were jailed in Coruscant, for example; would the Prime who summoned them be able to re-summon them whilst they were still alive (i.e. teleport them) or would that also just create another version? And assuming they can't re-summon living beings, would that make suicide followed by Prime-assisted reincarnation a viable escape plan?

Also, assuming that they can't be re-summoned whilst alive (without just making a copy), do Secondaries need to wait three days after death before being available for re-summoning, or can they be brought back immediately?

Also also, on the subject of escape plans, would it be possible to Recall yourself out of a jail cell if you had a Recall Station in your Base?

Minato Namikaze Wrote:it wasn't really a quick question, so I'm responding in a thread.

Minato Namikaze Wrote:When a Prime summons a secondary to the Omniverse, whether it's on purpose or by accident, the secondary retains any and all memories up to the point in which they were taken from. A prime can't specifically chose what memories they do and do not keep (we as players get the liberty of choosing from when and where our secondaries come).

Minato Namikaze Wrote:Something else to address is that you can't summon secondaries that aren't from your universe, the fact of that matter being that your character just won't know them and it would make no sense.

Minato Namikaze Wrote:In regards to summoning a secondary, Unless they are a summon or an assist and you're spending SP for it, I wouldn't try it, It's something I wouldn't think would be allowed.

Minato Namikaze Wrote:If they did kill themselves and the plan was to re summon them, then it would be the same secondary memory wise but also technically a different copy of that secondary. But why would you want to do that? that's just less story for you to write (which means less OM). It also seems a bit like you're trying to game the system.

Minato Namikaze Wrote:For the recall thing, I'm going to say a flat out no. The fact of the matter is, if you're in that position, anyone who was putting you in jail would simply take your weapons/ items away from you and you wouldn't be able to teleport out at all. Don't just assume that they would keep your items while you're in jail. The people putting you there have been here longer than you, the also know more about the world than your prime character.