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Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Red - 02-29-2016
Belle Wrote:Trunks Wrote:out of fairness, we should be allowed to purchase anything we please before this fight (as long as he have the OM to buy), cuz you guys have been prepping for this IC and OOC for over a week now.What, like items and shit?
I would say no, unless the summon time is instant. Smith has had time to prepare for this because he was betrayed and murdered. It's a little weird to start talking about fairness now.
1. anything is fair in sagas, this is pretty much an unwritten rule.
2. Yeah we should, because it isn't fair getting ambushed right after a saga. There should definitely be some type of mercy period for those who exit sagas, just like there's one for people who recently die.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Thaal Sinestro - 02-29-2016
Trunks Wrote:Mm, disagree. IC time to summon the items is a valid concern.Thaal Sinestro Wrote:Nah. We IC prepped, you were IC surprised. Can't retroactively prepare.
i can prepare however i want OOC, thanks very much.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Orihime Inoue - 02-29-2016
Belle Wrote:Trunks Wrote:out of fairness, we should be allowed to purchase anything we please before this fight (as long as he have the OM to buy), cuz you guys have been prepping for this IC and OOC for over a week now.What, like items and shit?
I would say no, unless the summon time is instant. Smith has had time to prepare for this because he was betrayed and murdered. It's a little weird to start talking about fairness now.
You act so surprised about the betrayal when it was in Smith's character to betray his own team as well. There is no fair in war.
But of course Smith is not upset at his actually team mate who did betray him all we did was help me and we wouldn't have done anything without colonol saying so. That makes perfect sense. That's "Fair"
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Omni - 02-29-2016
Orihime Inoue Wrote:Lol that is not what that says. Way to try to bend to rules though.Please keep these kinds of childish accusations off this website. We are not the Youtube comments.
To clarify the ruling, it simply means that you cannot delay the fight longer than 7 OOC days.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Red - 02-29-2016
Everything IC is in past-tense, thus happened in the past. I can decide wherever in that past I want things to take place. If I wanted DP to buy things, I can merely mention I've already had it, and then flashback to the point of purchase (or creation)
as long as i purchased everything before coming to the fight (ooc), i should be good.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Schwi Dola - 02-29-2016
time to summon purchased powers and moves is based upon your speed Stat which at worst is usually a matter of seconds.
You can't flashback for advantages like that Trunks
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Belle - 02-29-2016
Trunks Wrote:Whether or not there should be, there isn't.Belle Wrote:Trunks Wrote:out of fairness, we should be allowed to purchase anything we please before this fight (as long as he have the OM to buy), cuz you guys have been prepping for this IC and OOC for over a week now.What, like items and shit?
I would say no, unless the summon time is instant. Smith has had time to prepare for this because he was betrayed and murdered. It's a little weird to start talking about fairness now.
1. anything is fair in sagas, this is pretty much an unwritten rule.
2. Yeah we should, because it isn't fair getting ambushed right after a saga. There should definitely be some type of mercy period for those who exit sagas, just like there's one for people who recently die.
Like, this is the kind of bullshit that happens when you have artifacts, and why I probably won't ever want to have one. It sucks but those are the rules.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Thaal Sinestro - 02-29-2016
Ok, let me get this or of the way:
Ambushes aren't MEANT to be fair. That's why they're ambushes. Smith sent out a beacon ahead of time, in anticipation of setting up an ambush against an unprepared opponent.
If people wanna come in and help him, that's cool! Follow the rules for that. Can't have 2 characters interacting in a mechanically meaningful way. Can't be creating items retroactively.
Yeah, we set up an ambush. Is not fair. Welcome to the point of an ambush, folks.
As to Desco: Sasuke never opted into the flaghing system, and EVEN IF HE DID, he wouldn't be able to flag Red because he's carrying artefacts. You can't just sit on your hoard and claim preference.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Schwi Dola - 02-29-2016
Omni Wrote:Orihime Inoue Wrote:Lol that is not what that says. Way to try to bend to rules though.Please keep these kinds of childish accusations off this website. We are not the Youtube comments.
To clarify the ruling, it simply means that you cannot delay the fight longer than 7 OOC days.
Please clarify Omni because Both Proto and Minato just said you You cannot delay it 7 days. telling us that it has to be split down the middle meaning 3.5 days
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Red - 02-29-2016
Desco Wrote:time to summon purchased powers and moves is based upon your speed Stat which at worst is usually a matter of seconds.
You can't flashback for advantages like that Trunks
im talking about purchasing things OOC. I can do that whenever before the fight starts.
Then I can merely flashback to the point of purchase, to explain how/when i got it.
Obviously summoning something in the middle of a fight takes time.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Tartaros - 02-29-2016
Trunks Wrote:Everything IC is in past-tense, thus happened in the past. I can decide wherever in that past I want things to take place. If I wanted DP to buy things, I can merely mention I've already had it, and then flashback to the point of purchase (or creation)
Quote:Time travel, being in two places at once, 'flash-forwarding' etc is a no-go unless approved by staff. You're allowed to flashback, have your characters remember things from their history, both from outside of the Omniverse and inside, as long as it does not alter continuity. For example, saying in the middle of a player fight or staff-run storyline, "And before the fight, Zan stowed smoke bombs in his pocket ... which is convenient for the present" or otherwise majorly retconning events is not allowed. As with everything else, if you're confused or if you think something is borderline, ask staff first!
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Minato Namikaze - 02-29-2016
Desco Wrote:Omni Wrote:Orihime Inoue Wrote:Lol that is not what that says. Way to try to bend to rules though.Please keep these kinds of childish accusations off this website. We are not the Youtube comments.
To clarify the ruling, it simply means that you cannot delay the fight longer than 7 OOC days.
Please clarify Omni because Both Proto and Minato just said you You cannot delay it 7 days. telling us that it has to be split down the middle meaning 3.5 days
What? No, I said that both parties will agree on a time to prepare that is between one day and seven days. Not that it can't be seven days.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Red - 02-29-2016
Tartaros Wrote:Trunks Wrote:Everything IC is in past-tense, thus happened in the past. I can decide wherever in that past I want things to take place. If I wanted DP to buy things, I can merely mention I've already had it, and then flashback to the point of purchase (or creation)
Quote:Time travel, being in two places at once, 'flash-forwarding' etc is a no-go unless approved by staff. You're allowed to flashback, have your characters remember things from their history, both from outside of the Omniverse and inside, as long as it does not alter continuity. For example, saying in the middle of a player fight or staff-run storyline, "And before the fight, Zan stowed smoke bombs in his pocket ... which is convenient for the present" or otherwise majorly retconning events is not allowed. As with everything else, if you're confused or if you think something is borderline, ask staff first!
I must not have articulated myself properly, but nothing that you quoted holds weight on what im talking about.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Schwi Dola - 02-29-2016
Thaal Sinestro Wrote:As to Desco: Sasuke never opted into the flaghing system, and EVEN IF HE DID, he wouldn't be able to flag Red because he's carrying artefacts. You can't just sit on your hoard and claim preference.
It's fine that you want to pvp. I don't like forcing very short timetables which is the spirit of the pvp flags system that I agree with. I don't like that you don't follow that spirit, trying to set up someone after a saga and then also trying to force a time table without giving some leeway for real life. And that is why I am looking to help Sauske IC.
Great if you want to fight and not allow IC time, I don't like how you are trying to force OOC time in a way that is meant to force Sauske to surrender for OOC reasons.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Tartaros - 02-29-2016
Trunks Wrote:Tartaros Wrote:Trunks Wrote:Everything IC is in past-tense, thus happened in the past. I can decide wherever in that past I want things to take place. If I wanted DP to buy things, I can merely mention I've already had it, and then flashback to the point of purchase (or creation)
Quote:Time travel, being in two places at once, 'flash-forwarding' etc is a no-go unless approved by staff. You're allowed to flashback, have your characters remember things from their history, both from outside of the Omniverse and inside, as long as it does not alter continuity. For example, saying in the middle of a player fight or staff-run storyline, "And before the fight, Zan stowed smoke bombs in his pocket ... which is convenient for the present" or otherwise majorly retconning events is not allowed. As with everything else, if you're confused or if you think something is borderline, ask staff first!
I must not have articulated myself properly, but nothing that you quoted holds weight on what im talking about.
Then please, articulate more. I must have missed something.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Red - 02-29-2016
until the fight actually starts taking place, i can buy whatever the hell i want
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Trixie - 02-29-2016
Desco Wrote:It's fine that you want to pvp. I don't like forcing very short timetables which is the spirit of the pvp flags system that I agree with. I don't like that you don't follow that spirit, trying to set up someone after a saga and then also trying to force a time table without giving some leeway for real life. And that is why I am looking to help Sauske IC.
Great if you want to fight and not allow IC time, I don't like how you are trying to force OOC time in a way that is meant to force Sauske to surrender for OOC reasons.
So you're using an OOC reason to get Desco involved IC? Nice way to contradict anything you ever say ever.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Okor - 02-29-2016
Trunks Wrote:until the fight actually starts taking place, i can buy whatever the hell i want
Omni Wrote:Once the challenge has been acknowledged, players agree on when to start the fight. A player has up to seven OOC days from the initial challenge in order to prepare themselves for the fight, but it may not be delayed any longer unless agreed upon by both players. From the time the challenge is issued, no involved players may purchase items, powers, or anything else, nor move verses, unless ruled otherwise by the judge. Players may wish to post before the fight begins, setting up the fight in-character, but these posts will not count towards the fight itself.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Red - 02-29-2016
Trixie Wrote:Desco Wrote:It's fine that you want to pvp. I don't like forcing very short timetables which is the spirit of the pvp flags system that I agree with. I don't like that you don't follow that spirit, trying to set up someone after a saga and then also trying to force a time table without giving some leeway for real life. And that is why I am looking to help Sauske IC.
Great if you want to fight and not allow IC time, I don't like how you are trying to force OOC time in a way that is meant to force Sauske to surrender for OOC reasons.
So you're using an OOC reason to get Desco involved IC? Nice way to contradict anything you ever say ever.
how about you stop trolling. You're getting as bad as Okor.
Re: Challenge, Sasuke(and friends) Vs Smith (and squad) - Omni - 02-29-2016
Trixie, I was just about to warn you for the tone of this post:
Trixie Wrote:Desco: Seriously. Take your particular brand of infuriating logic and rhetoric somewhere else. A staff member posted this challenge. It is legitimate. End of story. Goodbye.I'm now warning you for your last post. Keep things professional or you will be banned from this topic.
Trunks: You seriously need to stop defending Sasuke. His character made IC decisions that he has to live with. Just because you have Trunks and Deadpool doesn't mean you can use both in this fight. I've already seen you reply as Deadpool which means Trunks would have to sit out. So yeah. There's that. I don't understand what is so hard to comprehend about people wanting artifacts. He's a target IC for IC reasons. Live with it.