Thaal Sinestro Wrote:

Thaal Sinestro Wrote:Hard Light Construct - 400 OM (requires Ranged Proficiency, Remote Control Proficiency, Ranged Materialize Proficiency)
Sinestro can summon objects with his ring to interact with and manipulate objects at range. This manipulation is completed with the use of Hard-Light Constructs, which can appear as any number of objects which could reasonably complete the task he is attempting to accomplish. For example, if Sinestro was attempting to hold something together with Hard Light Constructs it might appear as a chain. If he was attempting to pry something apart, it might appear as a crowbar. These objects can be attacked and damaged. The more energy he puts into these objects, the harder they are to break but the more physically and mentally exhausted he becomes. These objects will immediately dissipate upon his breaking his concentration for any reason. Maximum range of ~30 meters (~100 feet)

Omni's voice-to-text is janked, so would it be too much trouble to ask for some other mod to help me with this one? My intention is basically for it to be Telekinesis but you can attack and break the hard-light constructs, which should make it less powerful because basic telekinesis doesn't have a flaw. The exchange is that it works at full strength up to the max range, whereas telekinesis trails off.

That seem like a fair exchange for the same cost?

Strazio Rockwell Wrote:Adam Gaite

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Adam Gaite Wrote:Flash Ring -- Tier 1 Super Attack -- 600 OM (Requires: Ranged Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency, Time Manipulation)
Kicking his control over time into overdrive, Adam focuses intently for five seconds, producing a spiraling flow of light in shades of red around him, before he throws his hands out forward, the image of a clock appearing, only to shatter and bring the flow of time to a crunching halt. In this interval of stopped time, Adam proceeds to also kick his concealed rifle into overdrive, and flies a pair of rings around his target, letting loose a series of dozens of blasts aimed at them, all frozen in time as soon as they leave the rifle. When he has fired this attack, he returns to his position before freezing time, and time lurches back into motion, the hailstorm of laser bolts raining down on the target location in a thunderous, mildly-explosive volley.

Flash Ring -

Quote:Adam proceeds to also kick his concealed rifle into overdrive, and flies a pair of rings around his target, letting loose a series of dozens of blasts aimed at them, all frozen in time as soon as they leave the rifle

Does this mean he flies around his target twice while firing at them? How far away is he when he fires them? How much time does the target have to react before the bolts hit them?[/spoiler]

Quote:Tendril Entanglement (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency, Debuff Proficiency) -- 300 OM
[spoiler]Emerald slams the ground with both palms, growing roots below the surface of the ground and sending them at the target. The roots erupt from ground under target, and begin to wrap around their body, limbs, throat, and weapons if any, with moderate speed, restricting movement and constricting the target. Targets with a sharp weapon may be able to cut away some of the roots, reducing the roots' hold on them. Can be used to attack multiple targets at the same time, up to four. Attacking multiple targets at once decreases underground travel speed by 50% for each additional target beyond the first additional target, and increases the strain on Emerald to maintain the hold on all targets. She must remain still and connected to the ground to maintain the hold on the target(s).

The roots are 4 to 6 inches thick each, and green in color. They move 25 meters per second underground, and take a maximum of 5 seconds to restrain an average adult male. The roots erupt from ground in a five foot diameter under each target. The entanglement lasts as long as Emerald remains focused on holding the target(s), up to 10 minutes, leaving her significantly tired if held that long. The freeing of one target does not affect the state of another.[/spoiler]

Briar Barrier (Requires Area Shield Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency) -- 600 OM
[spoiler]”One Handed Shield”
Emerald brings a forearm in front her of body, as if to defend, summoning a thorny briar as a shield against attacks. Can defend repeated strikes against blunt object attacks, but has reduced effectiveness against sharp weapons. Energy and Fire based attacks destroy the shield with one attack. This shield can only be casted in a chosen direction. This shield forms nearly instantly.

“Dual-Wield Shield”
Alternatively, Emerald can slam the ground with both palms (or fists if hold a weapon(s)), summoning a thicker and stronger version of the shield, more equipped to defend against ranged attacks. This version is almost entirely unaffected by blunt attacks and sharp weapon strikes. Can defend against repeated strikes by piercing attacks, like bullets, arrow, or bolts, but has reduced effectiveness against Energy and Elemental attacks, resisting up to three strikes by them. Fire attacks burn the shield entirely, taking 5 seconds to destroy it. This shield can be casted in a chosen direction, or in a sphere around Emerald. This shield forms in one second.

Emerald can leave summoned shields intact where she summoned them, without any additional effort required, and but can only have up to two shields active at once. If she tries to summon another shield while two are already active, then both wither away as she summons the new one.

Both versions damage Melee attackers with the briar’s thorns.

The shields are three feet in width and six feet high, with their bases rooted in the ground. They are green in color, made of vines thickly tangled together and covered in thorns.[/spoiler]

Vine Lash (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Remote Control Proficiency) -- 600 OM
[spoiler]Emerald summons four thick and strong vines from the ground to assist her in offence and defense, taking three seconds to fully grow to ten feet in length. The vines attack and defend as Emerald does, acting essentially as additional limbs and extensions of herself, making it more difficult for an opponent to defend/dodge her melee attacks. Vines with Emerald's attacks by whipping and striking at the target.

If needed, by bring up a forearm to defend herself, Emerald can call upon a vine to block for her, similar to if she were to actually block with her own arm(s). Each vine can block one attack, and is destroyed afterwards, shriveling and dying. The vines are as fast and as strong as Emerald is, even reflecting and reduction in speed or strength she suffers. Essentially, if she cannot move, neither can the vines.

The vines are rooted at their base to where they were initially grown, and can move freely to attack and defend as needed, growing stretching to length as needed as well. They are ineffective if the target has moved more than 50 meters in any direction (including into the air) from where they were initially grown.

The vines themselves can be attacked at their base to disable them, and cannot defend themselves independently of Emerald’s instruction. The vines’ growth can only be interrupted if Emerald is knocked unconscious or if they are destroyed.[/spoiler]

Omni Wrote:Sorry about the time it took to get back to you on this. New mic arrived today.

If telekinesis were being used in such particular ways such as prying things open or holding things together with any degree of effectiveness it would need moves for those specific things. In a similar vein you'd need to have moves for each thing he can do with the hard light constructs. You could have a simple hand-type thing that can move and manipulate objects for 300, if you can give an example of the kind of things it can appear as then I can approve it. It needs to be fairly delimited.

Adam Gaite Wrote:

Strazio Rockwell Wrote:Adam Gaite

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Adam Gaite Wrote:Flash Ring -- Tier 1 Super Attack -- 600 OM (Requires: Ranged Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency, Time Manipulation)
Kicking his control over time into overdrive, Adam focuses intently for five seconds, producing a spiraling flow of light in shades of red around him, before he throws his hands out forward, the image of a clock appearing, only to shatter and bring the flow of time to a crunching halt. In this interval of stopped time, Adam proceeds to also kick his concealed rifle into overdrive, and flies a pair of rings around his target, letting loose a series of dozens of blasts aimed at them, all frozen in time as soon as they leave the rifle. When he has fired this attack, he returns to his position before freezing time, and time lurches back into motion, the hailstorm of laser bolts raining down on the target location in a thunderous, mildly-explosive volley.

Flash Ring -

Quote:Adam proceeds to also kick his concealed rifle into overdrive, and flies a pair of rings around his target, letting loose a series of dozens of blasts aimed at them, all frozen in time as soon as they leave the rifle

Does this mean he flies around his target twice while firing at them? How far away is he when he fires them? How much time does the target have to react before the bolts hit them?[/spoiler]

Yes, he flies twice around his target. He is approximately fifteen meters away as he fires, and his target will have a couple seconds -- two or three, approximately -- before the ring of lasers rains in. Enough time to use a Defensive move or try and mitigate the damage in some way.

Also, mildly changed the wording to try and clarify things as to mentioned:

Flash Ring -- Tier 1 Super Attack -- 600 OM (Requires: Ranged Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency, Time Manipulation)
Kicking his control over time into overdrive, Adam focuses intently for five seconds, producing a spiraling flow of light in shades of red around him, before he throws his hands out forward, the image of a clock appearing, only to shatter and bring the flow of time to a crunching halt. In this interval of stopped time, Adam proceeds to also kick his concealed rifle into overdrive, and flies circles around his target -- literally-- twice over, letting loose a series of dozens of blasts aimed at them, all frozen in time as soon as they leave the rifle. When he has fired this attack, he returns to his initial position before freezing time, and time lurches slowly back into motion, the hailstorm of laser bolts hissing for a bare second before raining down on the target location in a thunderous, mildly-explosive volley.

Kopaka Wrote:Te Awa Tio (600 OM, Requires Ranged Proficiency, Ranged Materialize Proficiency, Debuff Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency)

Kopaka summons a surge of elemental power into his Ice Sword for two seconds before thrusting it forward. A brilliant white-blue beam of ice rockets out from the tip, traveling roughly at the speed of an RPG, and leaving a flurry of ice flakes in its wake. Anyone struck by the beam is rapidly encased in a heavy mound of ice, unable to move. This does not harm the target, aside from leaving them with an intense chill. Fast-moving targets may only have parts of their bodies frozen if it is a glancing blow, and extremely powerful targets might be able to break free of the icy snare with some effort. Alternatively, Kopaka can use this ice beam to create basic shapes and structures anywhere up to 50 meters away, such as ramps, walls, spheres, and seals.

Kopaka cannot create a structure and freeze an opponent within the same round.

Quote:Tendril Entanglement (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency, Debuff Proficiency) -- 300 OM
[spoiler]Emerald slams the ground with both palms, growing roots below the surface of the ground and sending them at the target. The roots erupt from ground under target, and begin to wrap around their body, limbs, throat, and weapons if any, with moderate speed, restricting movement and constricting the target. Targets with a sharp weapon may be able to cut away some of the roots, reducing the roots' hold on them. Can be used to attack multiple targets at the same time, up to four. Attacking multiple targets at once decreases underground travel speed by 50% for each additional target beyond the first additional target, and increases the strain on Emerald to maintain the hold on all targets. She must remain still and connected to the ground to maintain the hold on the target(s).

The roots are 4 to 6 inches thick each, and green in color. They move 25 meters per second underground, and take a maximum of 5 seconds to restrain an average adult male. The roots erupt from ground in a five foot diameter under each target. The entanglement lasts as long as Emerald remains focused on holding the target(s), up to 10 minutes, leaving her significantly tired if held that long. The freeing of one target does not affect the state of another.[/spoiler]

Quote:Briar Barrier (Requires Area Shield Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency) -- 600 OM
[spoiler]”One Handed Shield”
Emerald brings a forearm in front her of body, as if to defend, summoning a thorny briar as a shield against attacks. Can defend repeated strikes against blunt object attacks, but has reduced effectiveness against sharp weapons. Energy and Fire based attacks destroy the shield with one attack. This shield can only be casted in a chosen direction. This shield forms nearly instantly.

“Dual-Wield Shield”
Alternatively, Emerald can slam the ground with both palms (or fists if hold a weapon(s)), summoning a thicker and stronger version of the shield, more equipped to defend against ranged attacks. This version is almost entirely unaffected by blunt attacks and sharp weapon strikes. Can defend against repeated strikes by piercing attacks, like bullets, arrow, or bolts, but has reduced effectiveness against Energy and Elemental attacks, resisting up to three strikes by them. Fire attacks burn the shield entirely, taking 5 seconds to destroy it. This shield can be casted in a chosen direction, or in a sphere around Emerald. This shield forms in one second.

Emerald can leave summoned shields intact where she summoned them, without any additional effort required, and but can only have up to two shields active at once. If she tries to summon another shield while two are already active, then both wither away as she summons the new one.

Both versions damage Melee attackers with the briar’s thorns.

The shields are three feet in width and six feet high, with their bases rooted in the ground. They are green in color, made of vines thickly tangled together and covered in thorns.[/spoiler]

Quote:Vine Lash (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Remote Control Proficiency) -- 600 OM
[spoiler]Emerald summons four thick and strong vines from the ground to assist her in offence and defense, taking three seconds to fully grow to ten feet in length. The vines attack and defend as Emerald does, acting essentially as additional limbs and extensions of herself, making it more difficult for an opponent to defend/dodge her melee attacks. Vines with Emerald's attacks by whipping and striking at the target.

If needed, by bring up a forearm to defend herself, Emerald can call upon a vine to block for her, similar to if she were to actually block with her own arm(s). Each vine can block one attack, and is destroyed afterwards, shriveling and dying. The vines are as fast and as strong as Emerald is, even reflecting and reduction in speed or strength she suffers. Essentially, if she cannot move, neither can the vines.

The vines are rooted at their base to where they were initially grown, and can move freely to attack and defend as needed, growing stretching to length as needed as well. They are ineffective if the target has moved more than 50 meters in any direction (including into the air) from where they were initially grown.

The vines themselves can be attacked at their base to disable them, and cannot defend themselves independently of Emerald’s instruction. The vines’ growth can only be interrupted if Emerald is knocked unconscious or if they are destroyed.[/spoiler]

Thaal Sinestro Wrote:

Omni Wrote:Sorry about the time it took to get back to you on this. New mic arrived today.

If telekinesis were being used in such particular ways such as prying things open or holding things together with any degree of effectiveness it would need moves for those specific things. In a similar vein you'd need to have moves for each thing he can do with the hard light constructs. You could have a simple hand-type thing that can move and manipulate objects for 300, if you can give an example of the kind of things it can appear as then I can approve it. It needs to be fairly delimited.

Can't a hand hold things together or pull them apart? What exactly does "manipulate objects" encompass? I kind of just imagined Telekinesis being able to do anything that a person could do with a hand, but from far away.

EDIT: Another analogous Power is Elasticity, which does literally the EXACT same thing as this move, only that instead of Sinestro's Physical body being the thing manipulating things, it would be an extension of his thought. Functionally, he would take damage to his mind instead of his body when the constructs were attacked and damaged, whereas with Elasticity would be straight to the flesh. Elasticity even allows you to make ATTACKS at extended range, which is the first instance of a rolled up power/move I've seen so far.

Elasticity – 400 OM
Characters with elasticity have bodies like rubber, allowing them to stretch to impossible lengths and bend better than any contortionist. To make full use of this power, you will require Physical Strength, Ranged Proficiency (to use punches, kicks etc at range, which requires no additional moves other than both aforementioned proficiencies) and the Remote Control Proficiency (to manipulate things at range). To make holes in your chest or other more 'fantastic' applications of elasticity like making your limbs bigger, you will need Malleability.

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For the sake of move clarity

Hard Light Construct - 400 OM (requires Ranged Proficiency, Remote Control Proficiency, Ranged Materialize Proficiency)

Sinestro can summon objects with his ring to interact with and manipulate objects at range. These manipulations are analogous to the things that a person with two large hands could feasibly complete (moving, pushing, pulling, pressing, turning, etc).

The objects that appear and complete these manipulations are actually physically present, and physically manipulating the objects they are interacting with, and thus must be the same size and shape of a normal object completing the task it is meant to do (as a general rule, at least 1 cubic foot per 50lbs force exerted) and must be in sufficient contact as would a normal object completing the same task. The larger the object is, the more concentration, mental energy and exhaustion it is for Sinestro to complete.

These objects have superficial images associated with them, always in the form of an object that is completing the task. If the object is grabbing and moving another thing, it will have a "grasping" mechanic, be it a hand, a mouth, a clamp, a claw, etc.

These objects can be attacked, damaged and destroyed. The more damage they take, the more strain it puts on Sinestro's mind. The more energy he puts into these objects, the harder they are to break but the more physically and mentally exhausted he becomes. These objects will immediately dissipate upon his breaking his concentration for any reason. Maximum range of ~30 meters (~100 feet)

Nealaphh Wrote:Te Awa Tio (600 OM, Requires Ranged Proficiency, Ranged Materialize Proficiency, Debuff Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency)

Kopaka summons a surge of elemental power into his Ice Sword for two seconds before thrusting it forward. A brilliant white-blue beam of ice rockets out from the tip, traveling roughly at the speed of an RPG, and leaving a flurry of ice flakes in its wake. Anyone struck by the beam is rapidly encased in a heavy mound of ice, unable to move. This does not harm the target, aside from leaving them with an intense chill. Fast-moving targets may only have parts of their bodies frozen if it is a glancing blow, and extremely powerful targets might be able to break free of the icy snare with some effort. Alternatively, Kopaka can use this ice beam to create solid shapes and structures anywhere up to 50 meters away, including ramps, walls, spheres, domes and seals.

Kopaka cannot create a structure and freeze an opponent within the same round.

Omni Wrote:I feel like you're trying to get around the limitation I put on this. Yes, a hand can open something, and yes a crowbar can; but a crowbar can do it much better. Telekinesis can't form into a crowbar unless you specifically purchasing move for prying things open. Basically you want to move that will allow you to have the best tool for any given task.

As I've said before, as with the bit of the Moves Guide that I quoted to Nealapph, you need to delimit it. Because the description is completely open, it leaves the potential for you to summon a crane to lift something out of the ground or Dragon to pick it up with its teeth. Those kinds of things wouldn't be allowed, which is why we need you to put exactly the forms and shapes he can use into the description. If they are similar enough, I will okay it. For example, if two things were roughly the same shape and size and didn't have different utility (I'm counting a hand or mouth as having different utility than a crowbar/tire iron) then I'd probably roll them into the same 300-OM 'use'.

Thaal Sinestro Wrote:If a dragon's mouth and a crane are both doing functionally the same thing with literally no other differences than what they look like, then why does it matter what they look like? If 2 hands can do a thing, why does it matter what it looks like? In this instance, the crowbar and the hands are equal strength, capable of exerting the same amount of force, they just look different. Why is that a problem? Isn't the root of this system "what it does, not what it looks like when it happens"? With a clearly, obviously delimited system of "anything 2 hands can do," with a clearly outlined measurement of force, I don't understand the issue at hand.

Omni Wrote:

Quote:Tendril Entanglement (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency, Debuff Proficiency) -- 300 OM
[spoiler]Emerald slams the ground with both palms, growing roots below the surface of the ground and sending them at the target. The roots erupt from ground under target, and begin to wrap around their body, limbs, throat, and weapons if any, with moderate speed, restricting movement and constricting the target. Targets with a sharp weapon may be able to cut away some of the roots, reducing the roots' hold on them. Can be used to attack multiple targets at the same time, up to four. Attacking multiple targets at once decreases underground travel speed by 50% for each additional target beyond the first additional target, and increases the strain on Emerald to maintain the hold on all targets. She must remain still and connected to the ground to maintain the hold on the target(s).

The roots are 4 to 6 inches thick each, and green in color. They move 25 meters per second underground, and take a maximum of 5 seconds to restrain an average adult male. The roots erupt from ground in a five foot diameter under each target. The entanglement lasts as long as Emerald remains focused on holding the target(s), up to 10 minutes, leaving her significantly tired if held that long. The freeing of one target does not affect the state of another.[/spoiler]

What does this entail? Is it just flavour or is she inhibited in any way?

10 minutes is still too long for most primes. Basically, logically, would she be able to hold that person with her actual arms for that long? Would she be able to hold three or four people for that long with her actual arms? Probably not. If you're boosting the power from her normal abilities then you really need much bigger downsides. I'd just base it on the vague description of how long she'd be able to hold a normal person with her ATK/TEC, unless you're adding in much bigger downsides.

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Quote:Vine Lash (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Remote Control Proficiency) -- 600 OM
[spoiler]Emerald summons four thick and strong vines from the ground to assist her in offence and defense, taking three seconds to fully grow to ten feet in length. The vines attack and defend as Emerald does, acting essentially as additional limbs and extensions of herself, making it more difficult for an opponent to defend/dodge her melee attacks. Vines with Emerald's attacks by whipping and striking at the target.

If needed, by bring up a forearm to defend herself, Emerald can call upon a vine to block for her, similar to if she were to actually block with her own arm(s). Each vine can block one attack, and is destroyed afterwards, shriveling and dying. The vines are as fast and as strong as Emerald is, even reflecting and reduction in speed or strength she suffers. Essentially, if she cannot move, neither can the vines.

The vines are rooted at their base to where they were initially grown, and can move freely to attack and defend as needed, growing stretching to length as needed as well. They are ineffective if the target has moved more than 50 meters in any direction (including into the air) from where they were initially grown.

The vines themselves can be attacked at their base to disable them, and cannot defend themselves independently of Emerald’s instruction. The vines’ growth can only be interrupted if Emerald is knocked unconscious or if they are destroyed.[/spoiler]

They need to be a fraction of Emerald's strength or have much bigger downsides. You're essentially multiplying her attack within a limited area, for a 3 second summon and no other significant cost.

"Moves must generally have downsides equivalent to their effects. We generally assume that even weak moves cost some fatigue; for example, swinging a sword or blocking the shield is going to tire you out, that's a given. So, assume that as a move get stronger, the downsides need to be greater in order to compensate. If your character attacks with six times the strength of a normal punch, they'd better have six times the windup, or leave you winded because of how fatiguing it was. Or a combination of both, where you have three times the windup and feel a bit winded. Get it?"

Emerald Wrote:Essentially I've trimmed this down to try and be a support move, trading her ability to do anything, for being able to restrain her target(s) for awhile. Maybe the addition of something like "the 10 minutes maximum is reduced for each additional target, 5 min when holding two, 3.5 min when holding 3, and 2.5 min when holding 4," would suffice? I'm not sure what more changes to make to still get my desired effect. Maybe reworking it into a Tier 1 Super Move?

Quote:Vine Lash (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Remote Control Proficiency) -- 600 OM
[spoiler]Emerald summons four thick and strong vines from the ground to assist her in offence and defense, taking three seconds to fully grow to ten feet in length. The vines attack and defend as Emerald does, acting essentially as additional limbs and extensions of herself, making it more difficult for an opponent to defend/dodge her melee attacks. Vines with Emerald's attacks by whipping and striking at the target.

If needed, by bring up a forearm to defend herself, Emerald can call upon a vine to block for her, similar to if she were to actually block with her own arm(s). Each vine can block one attack, and is destroyed afterwards, shriveling and dying. The vines are as fast and as strong as Emerald is, even reflecting and reduction in speed or strength she suffers. Essentially, if she cannot move, neither can the vines.

The vines are rooted at their base to where they were initially grown, and can move freely to attack and defend as needed, growing stretching to length as needed as well. They are ineffective if the target has moved more than 50 meters in any direction (including into the air) from where they were initially grown.

The vines themselves can be attacked at their base to disable them, and cannot defend themselves independently of Emerald’s instruction. The vines’ growth can only be interrupted if Emerald is knocked unconscious or if they are destroyed.[/spoiler]

Omni Wrote:

Thaal Sinestro Wrote:If a dragon's mouth and a crane are both doing functionally the same thing with literally no other differences than what they look like, then why does it matter what they look like? If 2 hands can do a thing, why does it matter what it looks like? In this instance, the crowbar and the hands are equal strength, capable of exerting the same amount of force, they just look different. Why is that a problem? Isn't the root of this system "what it does, not what it looks like when it happens"? With a clearly, obviously delimited system of "anything 2 hands can do," with a clearly outlined measurement of force, I don't understand the issue at hand.

If you make it clear that it is purely illusory; however, the way you've written it makes it sound like he is actually making these constructs out of hard light, and they aren't just illusions. You also didn't say anything about the size. That leaves it very vague.

Quote:Tendril Entanglement (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Area Attack Proficiency, Debuff Proficiency) -- 300 OM
[spoiler]Emerald slams the ground with both palms, growing roots below the surface of the ground and sending them at the target. The roots erupt from ground under target, and begin to wrap around their body, limbs, throat, and weapons if any, with moderate speed, restricting movement and constricting the target. Targets with a sharp weapon may be able to cut away some of the roots, reducing the roots' hold on them. Can be used to attack multiple targets at the same time, up to four. Attacking multiple targets at once decreases underground travel speed by 50% for each additional target beyond the first additional target, and increases the strain on Emerald to maintain the hold on all targets. She must remain still and connected to the ground to maintain the hold on the target(s).

The roots are 4 to 6 inches thick each, and green in color. They move 25 meters per second underground, and take a maximum of 5 seconds to restrain an average adult male. The roots erupt from ground in a five foot diameter under each target. The entanglement lasts up to 5 minutes, leaving her significantly tired if held that long. Emerald is rooted in place where this was cast for as long as the entanglement holds. The freeing of one target does not affect the state of another.[/spoiler]

Quote:Vine Lash (Requires Ranged Proficiency, Remote Control Proficiency) -- 600 OM
[spoiler]Emerald summons two thick and strong vines from the ground to assist her in offence and defense, taking three seconds to fully grow to ten feet in length. The vines attack and defend as Emerald does, acting essentially as additional limbs and extensions of herself, making it more difficult for an opponent to defend/dodge her melee attacks. Vines attack by whipping and striking at the target.

If needed, by bring up a forearm to defend herself, Emerald can call upon a vine to block for her, similar to if she were to actually block with her own arm(s). Each vine can block one attack, and is destroyed afterwards, shriveling and dying. The vines move slightly slower than if they were Emerald's actual limbs, due to their size and the energy required to move them at speed. The vines are only as strong as Emerald is, even reflecting any reduction in speed or strength she suffers. Essentially, if she cannot move, neither can the vines.

The vines are rooted at their base to where they were initially grown, and can move freely to attack and defend as needed, growing stretching to length as needed as well. They are ineffective if the target has moved more than 50 meters in any direction (including into the air) from where they were initially grown.

The vines themselves can be attacked at their base to disable them, and cannot defend themselves independently of Emerald’s instruction. The vines’ growth can only be interrupted if Emerald is knocked unconscious or if they are destroyed.[/spoiler]

Omni Wrote:So can he can make the constructs as big as he likes? That's what I need to know. If not I need to know how big he can make them ... Well the first wouldn't fly, so yeah.